Young Veiled Prey Intake, July 2013

This is daily a log of what my ~2 month old veiled consumed in July 2013. He was typically given as much as he could eat within about 5 minutes, once or twice a day. Prey is listed in the order in which it was offered and eaten.

The cockroaches are small –medium size. The superworms are freshly molted sm- medium sized. Crickets are medium - almost full grown.

All prey is gutloaded except the wild caught moths, wild caught harvestmen. Only about half the butterworms were gutloaded. The wild caught grasshoppers were only kept overnight so didn’t eat much while captive.

Gutload this month has consisted primarily of dandelion leaves, carrot, mint leaves, fresh peas and pods, dry alfalfa, dry filbert tree leaves, dried raspberry and blackberry leaves, almonds, kelp powder, spirulina powder, squash seeds, brewers yeast, romaine, apple, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries. Plus small amounts of: cantaloupe, spinach, grape leaves, banana, plum, clover, walnuts, orange, watermelon, papaya, cooked yam.

Supplements, when used, are also listed. “50-50 mix” means I take a spoonful of Mineral-O (the vitamin free calcium and mineral powder made by Sticky Tongue Farms) and a roughly equal spoonful of vitamin supplement (Repashy Calcium Plus) and mix them together for dusting.


Monday , 01 July
2 sm butterworms
5 terrestrial isopods
4 med crickets (50-50 mix of Repashy Calcium Plus and Sticky Tongue Farms Mineral-O)

Tuesday , 02 July
2 mealworms (50-50 mix of Repashy Calcium Plus and Sticky Tongue Farms Mineral-O)
4 med crickets (50-50 mix)
4 dubia nymphs (dusted with 100% Sticky Tongue Farms Mineral-O)

Wednesday , 03 July
5 small wc moths.
2 med crickets (50-50mix)
4 dubia nymphs (50-50 mix)

Thursday , 4 July
1 med cricket (50-50 mix)
2 hisser nymphs (mineral-o)
4 sm wc moths.
1 termite.

Friday , 05 July
2 mealworms (50-50 mix)
6 small dubia (Mineral-O)
4 small wc moths.

Saturday , 06 July
1 wc moth.
6 sm-med superworms
2 mealworms (50-50mix)
2 sm butterworms.
1 med cricket (50-50mix)

Sunday , 07 July
3 sm wc moths.
3 mealworms
4 sm crickets (50-50 mix)
10 terrestrial isopods.

Monday , 08 July
3 small wc moths.
2 sm butterworms.
4 crickets (Mineral-O)
1 med superworm (50-50 mix)
1 small hisser.

Tuesday , 09 July
4 crickets (mineral-o)
1 superworm (mineral-o)
6 mealworms (50-50mix)

Wednesday , 10 July
1 wc moth.
1 super
3 mealworm beetles

Thursday , 11 July
1 wc moth.
3 super (mineral-o)
3 meal. (mineral-o)
1 cricket. (50-50mix)
4 dubia (mineral-o)

Friday , 12 July
4 crickets (50-50mix)
4 dubia (mineral-o)
Saturday , 13 July
4 small hissers (mineral-o)
4 dubia (mineral-o)
4 crickets (50-50 mix)
4 mealworm.
6 more dubia (mineral-o)
1 more small hisser (mineral-o)
1 super (50-50mix).
1 sm wc harvestman

Sunday , 14 July
3 dubia (mineral-o)
2 cricket. (50-50mix)
4 super (mineral-o)
3 wc moth.
1 harvestman.
2 mealworms (mineral-o)
1 super (mineral-o)

Monday , 15 July
6 terrestrial isopod
4 silkworm
Tuesday , 16 July
2 super (50-50 mix)
4 dubia
Wednesday , 17 July
2 sm moth
2 super (50-50 mix)
2 dubia

Thursday , 18 July
nothing (he was shedding and in a foul mood)
Friday , 19 July
2 sm moth
1 super (50-50 mix)
6 dubia
1 harvestman
1 sm hisser (50-50 mix)

Saturday , 20 July
1 super (50-50 mix)
6 meal (50-50 mix)
1 sm hisser
2 butterworms
4 wc grasshoppers.
1 more super (50-50 mix)

Sunday , 21 July
4 silkworms
5 crickts (50-50 mix)
1 super (50-50)
3 dubia (50-50)
3 supers (50-50)
2 mealworm beetles
Monday , 22 July
5 crickets (mineral-o)
2 butterworms

Given that all my previous years of experience have been with panthers, Id love to hear from other veiled owners if this seems a reasonable intake for his age!?

blog entry is getting too long so I'll use comments section for the remainder of this months prey intake diary.

Photos of this chameleon: http://www.chameleonforums.com/max-114350/#post1022581

Comments

This comment is only made from my apparent ignorance on the situation. But that seems like a lot a Vitamin D your feeding. It appears you are giving Vitamin D almost daily. Am I wrong in that assumption?
 
techmikef;bt1907 said:
This comment is only made from my apparent ignorance on the situation. But that seems like a lot a Vitamin D your feeding. It appears you are giving Vitamin D almost daily. Am I wrong in that assumption?

You make a very good observation and ask an excellent question.

I myself have been thinking the same thing.

I do reduce the potency of the Repashy product by mixing it with the Mineral-O (which has no vitamins), and its not used on all of the prey in a day but only select prey items. But its true that normally (with panthers) I don't use even the 50-50 quite so much. However Ive been given to understand that veileds can handle more, may need more, when young, because they grow so quickly (compared to panthers). This being my first veiled, I've been following the advice of breeders.

Nevertheless, Ive been thinking that I'll start reducing back towards once to twice a week (and even fewer bugs) with the 50-50 mix.
 
Tuesday , 23 July
2 butterworms, 5 crickets (mineral-o), 2 dubia, 4 mealworms (mineral-o)

Wednesday , 24 July
5 dubia, 4 hissers (mineral-o), 1 super

Thursday, 25 July
1 m silkworm, 5 terrestrial isopods

Thursday, 25 July
2 silkworms, 2 crickets, 1 sm moth, 3 dubia (mineral-o)

Friday, 26 July
5 superworms (mineral-o), 2 mealworms (50-50 mix), 5 dubia, 2 hisser nymph

Saturday, 27 July
3 moths, 6 terrestrial isopods, 5 termites, 2 butterworms

Sun Jl 28
6 termites, 2 supers, 3 crickets (mineral-o)

Mon Jul 29
5 crickets (mineral-o), 3 butterworms, 1 super

Tuesday, July 30
3 hissers, 1 super (mineral-o)

Wednesday, July 31
4 crickets (mineral-o), 2 hisser, 1 dubia, 1 mealworm beetle, 4 mealworms.

 
August 1, Thursday: 2 indian walking sticks, 2 crickets (50-50 mix), 4 sm dubia

Aug 2 Friday: 4 silkworms, 2 indian walking sticks, 6 terrestrial isopods

Aug 3 - Sat: 2 sm wc moths, 2 indian walking sticks, 6 crickets (mineralO), 1 hisser nymph

Aug 4 Sunday: 6 wc grasshoppers (only 1 of which was dusted with MineralO), 2 silkworms, 1 hisser nymph (mneralO)

Aug 5 Monday: 2 wc moths, 3 superworms (50-50mix), 3 wc grasshoppers
 
He's a good little eater and you have provided him with a large variety so he is bound to grow up into a big healthy boy. Everything sounds like the correct amounts to me. My little guy is 4 months old and still a little piggy. I'm now starting to skip feedings a couple days a week. I worry about him growing too fast.
 
jannb;bt1932 said:
He's a good little eater and you have provided him with a large variety so he is bound to grow up into a big healthy boy. Everything sounds like the correct amounts to me. My little guy is 4 months old and still a little piggy. I'm now starting to skip feedings a couple days a week. I worry about him growing too fast.

thank you! your input is very valuable to me

I've noticed Max is starting to slow down a little - he still eats plenty but he's not quite so ravenously fast to do so
 
Aug 6 - 1 super (50-50); 4 dubia; 2 T Isopod
Aug 7 - 2 little hissers (MineralO) 2 mealworms (50-50) - doesn't seem very hungry today
August 8 - 2 superworms (mineralO) - he's not hungry today
Aug 9 - 2 grasshoppers, 3 butterworms -he's shedding
 

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