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And no one is saying it’s definitely the bee pollen causing Squirt’s symptoms. It’s just a variable to consider, just like all other aspects of husbandry.

Not curling the tail can be a sign of pain or weakness. I don’t see anything physically wrong with the tail on his xrays.

I do not people should not use it at all as you suggest. My concern is the need for more moderation in its use until it is better understood.

I don’t see anything obvious on his x-rays as concerning. What worries you about his tail?

This thread is for someone asking about the health status of their chameleon. Further replies need to be focused on that. If we would like to examine the merits of bee pollen further it will need to be done elsewhere.

Because I’ve seen people dump in bee pollen for gutloading and literally coat crickets in it so they are yellow under the recommendation that it is natural and safe. So my concern is that it is being overused. How much does 40 granules weigh?

I figured you’d spew your normal crap. Which will be deleted if you continue because you continue to personally attack and insult instead of just sticking to data or having a meaningful discussion. Let’s just go off some averages here. I don’t have specs on bees in Madagascar or Africa so will...

Anthrax is also natural and has been present in the wild for millions of years. People have died from overingestion of water. Coating an entire batch of bugs in bee pollen regularly is probably not matching the amount of pollen consumed on wild insects is my point. Anything can become toxic if...

I do not have any concrete evidence to support this but I share your concerns and have seen enough cases of problems following bee pollen usage that are a little too suspicious to just be shrugged off as nothing more than coincidence. More studies are needed but I personally no longer use it.

No, not completely normal. While the white blood cells counts are technically within normal ranges there is a relative heterophilia, as the heterophils (similar to neutrophils in mammals) are usually less than 40% compared to lymphocytes in most species. Tortoises it can be a bit higher. So this...

It’s okay, if you make a claim you should be able to back it up. It’s exhausting doing the legwork sometimes but necessary. :)

I would like to offer that you to find papers to support your hypothesis rather than placing the burden of proof on me to prove your point for you. Vitamin D toxicosis has been examined in several species of reptiles, it doesn’t have to be a gutloading related study.

But that’s my point. The metabolism of reptiles is very different from that of mammals so you can’t just extrapolate. You need more data to support your theory. Otherwise it’s just conjecture ;) There have been studies that document vitamin D toxicosis on green iguanas.

At 17.8? I’ve seen it over 30 plenty of times. So it’s totally believable. Were you maybe looking at the CPK above it?

What makes you believe that?

My house has solar panels that make up for 96% of my energy use on average. In the winter or on cloudy days it’s less but on sunny days it’s over 100%. But in Colorado there is a rule that solar cannot be 100% or more on average because of energy company lobbying. I like them and it was easy to...

There are almost no studies using fresh produce that I can find unfortunately. As mentioned above, the goal for nutrition is at least 2:1 calcium to phosphorus and a lot of gutloading studied struggle to get to 1:1, which is why dusting is still recommended. And that is also why the produce...

If the tongue cannot stay in the mouth or if it starts looking dried out then it should be amputated. But if you were able to get it back in there is a chance she can recover. It may be permanently damaged and she may shoot crooked like my veiled did and need to eat out of a cup.

It does have different charts based on what category they fall in. So three-toed box turtles and panther chameleons both fall in the "Medium UV Species" category so their recommendation is the same, for example. So they evaluate a species and place it in a category based on the data available...