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Yes I like that study very much. :) I think a lot of people don't offer enough cover in their cages to adequately allow panthers to regulate as much as they should because if they cannot avoid UVB exposure then they can't regulate like they should.

The Arcadia lighting guide puts them in medium range which is only 3-4 UVI, but I'm not sure if that's catered specifically for panther chameleons or if that's just the category on average. https://www.arcadiareptile.com/lighting/medium-uv-species/

Thanks!

What is the 7UVI limit based on?

That particular article refers to fatty acid absorption and that is something that has very few studies in reptiles in general and no available data in chameleons that I’m aware of so I have difficulty with knowing how to implement the information offered. There is still simply so much that we...

Please feel free to post it :)

Kinyongia is the queen of literature so she may have it! I haven’t run across that one yet. :)

A relationship between UVB and vitamin A? That’s interesting. I’d love to read more about that if you find it.

So with that data I evaluated some of my gutload options this morning as I was feeding my crickets. Based on 8% calcium content minimum and very small particle size (another factor investigated in several studies found to have a beneficial effect on gutload efficacy) the Mazuri Better Bug...

Most of the studies were specifically focused on calcium levels and increasing the Ca: P ratio from 0.15:1 (the normal cricket without gutloading) to 1:1, which is more nutritionally appropriate for insectivores. None of the studies were focused directly on chameleons and determined what was...

Okay....after browsing through hundreds of pages of research (the one posted above is a solid 161 pages!) I have some interesting info to share. It would appear that studies have demonstrated a combination of the two definitions of gutloading proposed is actually in effect. The time suggested...

Haha no, not you specifically. You just summarized the 11 pages of discussion very concisely so I used it to keep things going on track. :) The current recommendation is based on making sure that feeders have enough time to properly consume food items offered. But is that to digest them first...

To challenge this further my question remains: is there a functional difference between the two? Has one been proven to be more efficacious than the other? Does digestion in the feeder mobilize nutrients in a way that chameleons would otherwise be unable to utilize? Or do they benefit from the...

You can try to gently massage the area with a q-tip but it is difficult to manipulate in a little cham and you could do damage by packing it in or hurt the eye so be cautious. You can use the ARAV site to try to find a reptile vet near you: https://arav.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=3661...

Unfortunately sometimes even with prompt treatment this can still recur or progress and I always warn people of that when we start treatment. The eyes are a very delicate structure in chameleons and once problems start they can be very difficult to get back on track. I generally do not sedate...

All I do is ask you for evidence to support your claims and you accuse me of pseudoscience and insult me and other members personally and CF. Again. You are not interested in a scientific debate, only personal attacks and insults, of which you seem to have plenty. The patience for your...

I have tried to address your points but the goalposts keep moving. I stand corrected on other sites using gutloading in its literal meaning. Our resources say 12-24 hours after feeding feeders. But I also maintain that there is absolutely no evidence that literal gutloading is not effective and...

My goal was not to have people side with me, although I appreciate the support. My goal was simply to engage in conversation about a topic that interests me and that was lacking any scientific evidence in the discussion. Gutloading is the approved term through multiple peer reviewed sources over...

Inflammation of the turret conjunctiva can be caused by a piece of shed in the turret or other foreign material such a particulate matter from vines, sap from plants, or substrate, or an early respiratory infection. Hypovitaminosis A can also be at work given that it’s both eyes affected as it...

It can but doesn’t always. About 50/50 on being bilateral vs single side. I’ve seen lots either way.