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What are you going to do if it outgrows the pond?

So small and pretty

That pic of one of them shedding is great lol.

That is so cool.

Yeah they look exactly like the spores I had on my birds nest.

They have the mistling on amazon... https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B012IAK4SC/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A31YGJYJ7SVZAM&psc=1

Just cause. Let's see something else other than panthers and veileds. :)

This is a really old thread.

I've seen some pvc cages and I like that they could keep in spray and keep up humidity, but I'm not completely sold on the safety of pvc. What are your opinions on potential long term issues with pvc? I know lots of people have pvc cages and are doing fine, so I might just be being paranoid.

Oh wow I love hoehnelii! Just curious, how are you achieving the night temp drops?

I would try waiting a little longer. I know Frank Payne has some minor babies right now

Wow, that's still a decent drop, though.

So ice packs can cool down a cage 35 degrees?!!

I know you asked for a forum, and I normally don’t like fb groups, but this one called How Not to Slay the Dragon is pretty great.

Hey guys I’m sorry about me asking about just basic questions about these Chams. But I just can’t find a ton of info. The thing I’m most confused on is the night temperature. Do rudis need temp drops into the 50s/40s? Or is low 60s okay? I’ve been reading through a lot of contradictory information.

I’m not sure they are still breeding rudis, I’ll probably have to contact them.

Thanks, this was pretty helpful. As for the handling, I understood these were more of a “look, don’t touch pet, “ but never knew that they are so very prone to stress! If you don’t mind me asking, where did you find that they can be so stressed by handling that they could possibly even go on a...

I guess my real question was: are rudis chameleons very delicate? Are they significantly harder than the "big three"? Not trying to ignore all the advice, but just wanted a straight answer. So far on the internet I've heard that they are very hardy, or that they are very difficult.

They are pretty cool.

Thanks for the replies but to be honest I was never a big fan of panthers or veiled s ?