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Well yeah I know it's def a Panther or possibly a Panther hybrid, but what kind of Panther? She's about 10-11mo old. I was thinking possibly a Panther hybrid mix.

I have couple thoughts on what I think it is, but I'd like to hear the opinions of you guys who know a lot about Panthers and Oustalets

You're correct in that a untrained person should not try to intubate a person; which is why health-care literacy is becoming a major concern. However, that is a totally different aspect than something hanging out of a persons/animals mouth and them possibly choking to death. I hope that you, or...

I'm not arguing with you @wavingsnail my article was specifically meant to dispose the comment towards "never remove something from their vent". The obstruction and choking hazard should be a given, as @jajeanpierre obviously made a point to try and argue with me about, and I am not appreciative...

I agree in a sense; but someone without veterinary experience should be given the advice to remove an obstructive object if necessary (instead of letting their chameleon/reptile/animal die just as a human being chocking on food). Again, my apologies and I do not mean to come off as a prick, but...

"don't pull anything out of their mouth or their vent" - @jajeanpierre

"Using general anesthesia with propofol (Rapinovet 10mg/ml; Mallinckrodt Veterinary) at 5-10 mg/kg IV (tail vein or intracardiac) and/or isoflurane eggs sometimes can be gently manipulated toward the cloaca and removed." Here's the quote, look it up on any veterinary encyclopedia if you'd like...

The dystocia article referes directly to pulling something out of the vent. The pulling out an obstruction from the mouth should be a given for anyone with any medical knowledge, or common sense whatsover. I'll send you a 100 links to that if you'd like?

@jajeanpierre http://www.ivis.org/proceedings/navc/2006/SAE/607.pdf?LA=1 My apologies for again having to correct your misinformation and provide sources; but certain times it is appropriate to have to use manual procedures for removing from the vent, and/or mouth of a chameleon.

Hopefully just the invasive brown ones, and/or knight (biting) anoles! Not the smaller green (though they can turn brown but don't have the pattern like the brown ones). BTW; those cuban tree frogs you see all around the florida area; it is recommended to put benzocaine on them then freeze them...

Thanks, I did put two small roaches in her cage this morning, but it has been ~50hrs now, and she has defecated once (I'll wait a couple more days to feed her though). I have a high powered microscope and access to vet equipment (via per-veterinary students), so I will do a re-check on that in a...

And yeah; one of my favorite stories is of one of those curly tail lizards that got in one of my outdoor greenhouse enclosures, and my largest female veiled chasing it on the ground with her mouth wide open. I got in to chase it too, so it was me and her chasing this damn lizard...pretty funny...

Thanks. And I do understand that which is why I only started too try and pull it out but didn't...I wanted to make sure not to cause damage; but that would be better than her choking to death. I have seen young chameleons choke on too large of a cricket or roach.

In the wild, Chameleons experience winds, cold rains, etc... Captive bred are used to a bit different conditions but we want to mimic their wild biome as closely as possible. The fan is fine, as long as it doesn't stress him/her out (some of my chameleons don't like the action of the fan...

Has anyone ever seen a chameleon eat such a large prey item? That's ~23% of her size. The iguana was 3" from nose to anus, and 11" nose to tail. She was in a large outdoor greenhouse type enclosure, and i had left the door open awhile while measuring and weighing her. I guess a baby iguana must...

My apologies, it kept giving me errors and wouldn't allow me to upload the photo...Also; my smallest is a 18month old female veiled (I think she is a bit special, but she is the sweetest and funniest) @ ~9.5inches and 64grams (she's not gravid at the moment either, a virgin, but did lay an...

Tomorrow when I have access to a cell phone, I can send some better pics! As for now, to start the thread, here's a potato quality pic from my laptop of one of my sweethearts, Daisy's (female veiled, has laid eggs, but not currently gravid) indoor terrarium. She is 14.5" and weighs 149grams...

This could help us to gather more information on potential nurturing factors (nature vs. nurture) that some owners may do differently, (possibly without even realizing it), that provide a longer, healthier ( and potentially happier) life for our beloved ones. For those apprehensive folk (I am...

Except that the link you sent is not a source link, and Y'all is also in the oxford dictionary, cambridge dictionary, and dictionary.com. But I agree with @alphakenc and would like to agree to disagree and avoid arguing as it adds nothing to the conversation.