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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    You do realize there is a permit for raptors and migratory birds. http://myfwc.com/license/wildlife/protected-wildlife/raptors/ Furthermore; "not in their nature"? Cats are solitary creatures and form strong bonds with humans. I will agree that most chameleons are solitary, and my female...
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    Thanks for your consideration, and that was one of my first considerations. However he seems to like looking at himself in the mirror. He is very attached to me and bonded with me immediately, so it could just be that he just likes being with me, regardless of a mirror or not.
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    I have a class 2, and am registered as a volunteer to both rescue and remove animals. With my body, a curtain, etc...blocking his vision so that he could only see something diagonal (a perceived threat) then he could only see himself and what ever the perceived threat is...I have tried a marking...
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    I think I know a way I might can test this more thoroughly, but again, I've never seen this and am looking for any insight. But if he is in front of me where he cannot see behind me, and a perceived threat comes from behind, he would have to use only the mirror to maneuver his own body to hide...
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    In the most basic terms, self-awareness is the ability to recognize oneself (in the mirror test for example). Do you agree with me? Zeus uses his own self image in order to position his body (and recognizes that his tail/veil are still visible, and adjusts accordingly to his mirror image) for...
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    So basically he chills on my head and looks at himself (with both eyes), but when nervous/scared, or a perceived threat is present, like a friend, he uses the mirror to hide his body and makes sure his body is fully hidden via the mirror image of himself.
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    Maybe someone else can chime in and possibly give more examples of chameleons using a mirror to their advantage. Because I have never witnessed that with any reptile; unlike iguanas bobbing their head in the mirror, or chameleons which don't even acknowledge the mirror as existing.
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    I do understand the perceived threat and have witnessed it a lot--the difference is; he is using the mirror to his advantage, which i have never witnessed in this way before. He is fine on top of a strangers head, but that stranger puts him in their hand and he hides behind their hand as best he...
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    Also to your question, all mine are wild-caught except for a few. I live near an area where there are populations of wild chameleons (invasive). and your right about him being angry in that pic, it was one of the first pics I took after I caught him, but he is a gentle giant and we formed a bond...
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    I only say I posted this elsewhere, because a few people have stated that. But it is evident when a large territorial male reptile comes in contact with another male...as opposed to him curiously looking at himself in the mirror and using the mirror to watch your body and eye movements as well...
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    I posted this elsewhere also, and I can tell you, if he see's another male he will puff out and turn dark--if a female he will turn light and chase (edit: I should clarify; he turns brighter colors and gets excited with female veileds--I have mated him; he is territorial as all chameleons are...
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    My new wild-caught veiled...he shows self-awareness via the mirror test

    Like most chameleons, he will hide himself behind a branch and slim his body to hide behind the branch. However, if I put him on mine or a friends head he is perfectly fine. But, as soon as you put him in front of a mirror he recognizes himself and myself (or another person) in the mirror. He...
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