albino chameleons

[mrlloyd]

i tried searching on the forum but couldn't find anything. i know panther chameleon genes are mostly carried threw the mothers bloodline (PLEASE CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG HERE) is there any way a panther cham could ever be a true albino? what about jackson chams?

 

[Nicolas]

I have never seen an albinos panther cham.
But they are albinos jackson
http://forum.tanalahy.com/c-calyptr...c-t2728.html?hilit=jacksonii albinos&start=15
And the translucent piedball among veiled chams...

 

[pssh]

I can't see the picture because I am not a part of the forum.


I haven't heard of a panther being albino, and I thought the jacksons "albino" wasn't proven to be an albino (I could be wrong, especially since I can't see that picture?) like Nicolas said, veileds have a translucent or "piebald" gene though. In low end animals (that only carry one gene) their feet and sometimes tail have areas that are pink, black, or white. In the high end animals (that have two copies of the gene) the pink, white, and black appears further up their legs, tail, and face. Sometimes the turrets are see through so you can see their eye moving inside.

 

[Nicolas]

Yes sorry, an other link with the same pict:
http://images.search.conduit.com/Im...n=true&PageSource=Results&SSPV=&start=0&pos=3

 

[pssh]

It sent me to a picture of an albino snake?

 

[Nicolas]

It sent me to a picture of an albino snake?

Euh...no
I don't understand
http://images.search.conduit.com/Im...n=true&PageSource=Results&SSPV=&start=0&pos=3

Try here otherwise: http://geocities.ws/chamjacksonii/behavior.html

 

[KarmaChameleon1337]

It sent me to a picture of a snake as well.

 

[Nicolas]

Sorry, a problem. Yet this is the right link for me.

 

[pssh]

Oh yeah, that female was from a guy who was apparently known as a scammer. I haven't been able to find anything factual that it is actually an albino and not an ill/dehydrated red phase jacksons. Have you found anything definitive?

I've read about an albino mellers, but I haven't found any proof on it either.

 

[pssh]

I was looking through the pictures (on the link where there is an albino snake) and it appears that the female veiled has some very bent looking legs. It looks like it has MBD.

When I clicked the picture it sent me here?
http://reptil-virus.bb-fr.com/t12850-mon-couple-de-cameleon

 

[Nicolas]

I've heard of a scammer but about the appellation "willigensis" but not about the albino. Probably the same person?!

I haven't got more data.
If you find data about the albino meller, i'm interested.

About the link, i don't understand..it isn't at all what I sent
But yes, she seems to have the MBD...

 

[pssh]

I don't think they are the same person. If I am remembering correctly, the person who named the jacksons was an exporter? (Or maybe it was an importer from Europe?) The person who had the "albino" was Terry Lilley of Central Coast Reptiles in California.


This is the original link you posted:
http://images.search.conduit.com/Im...n=true&PageSource=Results&SSPV=&start=0&pos=3


When I click on it, it sends me to another page with a picture of an albino snake.

 

[Nicolas]

I don't think they are the same person. If I am remembering correctly, the person who named the jacksons was an exporter? (Or maybe it was an importer from Europe?)

I think a poacher but i'm not sure.

This is the original link you posted:
http://images.search.conduit.com/Im...n=true&PageSource=Results&SSPV=&start=0&pos=3


When I click on it, it sends me to another page with a picture of an albino snake.

Yes it's was this link...Decidedly, the mysteries of the computer...

 

[hyunho6]

I don't think they are the same person. If I am remembering correctly, the person who named the jacksons was an exporter? (Or maybe it was an importer from Europe?) The person who had the "albino" was Terry Lilley of Central Coast Reptiles in California.


This is the original link you posted:
http://images.search.conduit.com/Im...n=true&PageSource=Results&SSPV=&start=0&pos=3


When I click on it, it sends me to another page with a picture of an albino snake.

http://geocities.ws/chamjacksonii/behavior.html Go down and look there is albino

 

[pssh]

That is the animal I am talking about, hyunho6.

 

[coldbloodedAL]

I believe you are thinking of the importer/exporter who claimed to have a new subspecies of jacksons, AKA jacksonii willengensis.. which is in fact j. jacksonii.. Some EU breeders still refer to them as willingensis for some strang reason though.

I don't think they are the same person. If I am remembering correctly, the person who named the jacksons was an exporter? (Or maybe it was an importer from Europe?) The person who had the "albino" was Terry Lilley of Central Coast Reptiles in California.


This is the original link you posted:
http://images.search.conduit.com/Im...n=true&PageSource=Results&SSPV=&start=0&pos=3


When I click on it, it sends me to another page with a picture of an albino snake.

 

[pssh]

I believe you are thinking of the importer/exporter who claimed to have a new subspecies of jacksons, AKA jacksonii willengensis.. which is in fact j. jacksonii.. Some EU breeders still refer to them as willingensis for some strang reason though.

There we go! Thanks for reminding me! Alright now I can say for sure, they are different people.

 

[mrlloyd]

that was a bad quality picture of the albino. But when it comes to genes anything is possible right? the thing that gets me is that they can change there colors when they feel like they need to.

 

[Nicolas]

Yes i confirm, in europe, some people tend to forget that willigensis is not a sub-species and attach too much importance to this appellation.
The real name is Chamaeleo Trioceros jacksonii jacksonii willigensis...starts to become complicated

 

[Chameleonic]

It sent me to a picture of a snake as well.

A snake in the grass? loololol