any advice please??!!!

flashjord101

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Here is my situation with Harold. Male Ambilobe Panther 2 years old. Hes been happy and healthy until yesterday he started grasping his front leg with his back feet as he climbed etc. sometimes knocking him off balance and maybe even a fall or 2. I knew this could be a sign of MBD so I took him to the vet . She did xrays and blood test. Bones and everything look good. She said kidney's looked a bit odd so she sent the xray to a colleague and we should have results from the blood test tomorrow.

However she did say he is extremely dehydrated, which surprised me because he eats and drinks regularly and his urate has been white (she said that white urate could actually mean dehydration in this case...) . I have the mist king go for 5 min every 2 hours (which I will increase).

Anyway: she gave me electrolyte solution and said soak him and mist him with it. I got a little over anxious when I got home and put him in his cage I started misting. I thought he was opening his mouth because he was so thirsty but ultimately he was just angry and stressed. Before I realized this I dripped some of the solution in his mouth. I then ran the mist king and dripper. for a while and he was drinking a lot. Then he started raising his head catching drops from the top of the cage. Something was wrong. I took hi out and he had a clear phlegm type fluid all over and inside his mouth. Totally clear. I was able to remove it. He opened his mouth and allowed me to clear it out and he seems fine now (not the original leg problem or dehydration but no more phlegm). I'm thinking I basically choked him with the water when he wasn't looking to drink. Anyone has experience with this?

If I have solved the phleghm problem I now need the best way to hydrate him. Soaking him in pedialyte just doesn't seem like the best plan. It was my first time with this vet. She is an exotics vet but not sure how if she's truly a chameleon specialist. He name is Dr. Margolin at Exotic Animal Care Center in Pasadena.

Any help and advice is much appreciated. It's very upsetting to see my pet sick and unhappy.
thanks,
Jordan
 
Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - 2 year old male Ambilobe panther chameleon. raised since a baby.
Handling - Daily handling. He loves to come out.
Feeding - alternating crickets and silk worms. cricket crack and greens for gutload.
Supplements - Alternate miner-all, calcium with vit D, Herptivite. (however I am only going to give hiom the vit d and herptivite once a month from here out)
Watering - Mist king. 5 minutes every two hours. I do see him drink.
Fecal Description - Never tested for parasites. fecal usually looks healthy brown with an orange ring and then white urate.
History - Came from Kammers.


Cage Info:

Cage Type - DIY cages screen enclosure. 48x24x24
Lighting - 2 repitsun 5.0 tubes. 12 hours on.
Temperature - basking is at 80-85 degrees F. doesn't drop below 60 at night.
Humidity - ranges from 50 85%. humidity comes from the mist king only.
Plants - Ficus Benjamina
Placement - Cage is in dining room. It is relatively close to a cieling heating vent. We have been using it at night. The cage is about 4 feet away from the vent a 3 feet below it. The top of the cage is about 6 feet from the floor.
Location - Venice beach CA.


Current Problem - Here is my situation with Harold. Male Ambilobe Panther 2 years old. Hes been happy and healthy until yesterday he started grasping his front leg with his back feet as he climbed etc. sometimes knocking him off balance and maybe even a fall or 2. I knew this could be a sign of MBD so I took him to the vet . She did xrays and blood test. Bones and everything look good. She said kidney's looked a bit odd so she sent the xray to a colleague and we should have results from the blood test tomorrow.

However she did say he is extremely dehydrated, which surprised me because he eats and drinks regularly and his urate has been white (she said that white urate could actually mean dehydration in this case...) . I have the mist king go for 5 min every 2 hours (which I will increase).

Anyway: she gave me electrolyte solution and said soak him and mist him with it. I got a little over anxious when I got home and put him in his cage I started misting. I thought he was opening his mouth because he was so thirsty but ultimately he was just angry and stressed. Before I realized this I dripped some of the solution in his mouth. I then ran the mist king and dripper. for a while and he was drinking a lot. Then he started raising his head catching drops from the top of the cage. Something was wrong. I took hi out and he had a clear phlegm type fluid all over and inside his mouth. Totally clear. I was able to remove it. He opened his mouth and allowed me to clear it out and he seems fine now (not the original leg problem or dehydration but no more phlegm). I'm thinking I basically choked him with the water when he wasn't looking to drink. Anyone has experience with this?

If I have solved the phleghm problem I now need the best way to hydrate him. Soaking him in pedialyte just doesn't seem like the best plan. It was my first time with this vet. She is an exotics vet but not sure how if she's truly a chameleon specialist. He name is Dr. Margolin at Exotic Animal Care Center in Pasadena.

Any help and advice is much appreciated. It's very upsetting to see my pet sick and unhappy.
thanks,
Jordan
 
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