black teeth?

[seifer]

Quick question about my 3.5 yr old veiled, noticed today that the teeth towards the back of his mouth are black, while the ones towards the front are quite a bit whiter. Is this normal? i remember a while ago that they all used to be white. Is this just due to his age or something to be concerned about?

He didnt eat for about 3 days even with the superworms in his feeder cup (usually eats 2-3 a day). However, i went and got him 4 baby dubias and he ate 2 of those, the other 2 are just sitting in his feeder cup so hopefully he'll munch on those later.. got him a decent sized madagascar too but i figure i'll try that tomorrow or the next day.

 

[cambech]

I'm no professional with this particular ailment, but to me it sounds like "mouth rot". the reason he's become a fussy eater is probably because it hurts him to eat anything. I'd suggest a vet visit as soon as possible. I'm sure you'll get a few more responses here from those who are more knowledgable on this problem.

 

[chameleon884]

it could be mouthrot.

moutrot is a bi*** because once you heal it, it almost always comes back. i (and probably everyone on the forum) would suggest a vet visit. im unaware of the medicine they give you (sorry)

it would be greatly apprecitated if you filled out the "How to ask for help" form. also try to post some pics. that is the BEST way we can help. hope things get better.

 

[lisagr07]

how does a cham get "mouthrot"?

 

[chameleon884]

how does a cham get "mouthrot"?

just in case you are or aent being sarcastic, im gonna tell you anyway...

im not quite sure but i think it happens when a cham gets a cut/ open wound in its mouth and it gets infected. it usually happens around the gums near the teeth.

 

[Carlton]

how does a cham get "mouthrot"?

"Stomatitis" or mouthrot is not a disease in itself, but a symptom of an ongoing infection of the gum, lip, the internal surfaces of the mouth. It could be caused by a cut from a feeder leg, a bite, an injury, an infected temporal gland (that little gland in the corner of the mouth) or a complication from an infection spreading from somewhere else. It can spread to the bone, teeth, or form abscesses under the skin of the face.

 

[seifer]

thanks for all the feedback guys, called the local reptile vet and she doesn't have any appts till next wednesday unless i drive an hour south... I took a few pics but they're pretty bad quality. I don't see any open sores in/around his mouth and it's just his teeth that are black. I don't notice any puss or mucous in his mouth either. he DID just eat 2 small dubia cockroaches and drink a ton of water today so i get the feeling like he's not in urgent need of a visit ASAP but either way i'm going to take him in next wednesday. Heres the pics, hopefully i can borrow my friends good quality camera soon.

My real question is, should i be concerned and get him to the vet ASAP or think its okay to wait a week and see how he's doing (and hopefully get a fecal sample...)

 

[kinyonga]

Your pictures are not clear enough to be sure, but I don't see anything wrong. Still it will ease your mind to have him checked out.

 

[seifer]

So i just got off the phone with the vet and seeing as how he ate and drank today, is using his tongue, gripping hard, has no mucous, and the only black thing is his teeth she said that she doesn't think its mouth rot. However, she said that if i notice it getting worse within the next day or two i should take him to the other vet thats an hour away (she's going out of town tomorrow). So for now im just gonna keep a really close eye on him. Either way, she seems to really know her stuff so if it can wait until next wednesday i'm going to take him to the doctor just for a check up (he's never been before)

Thanks for all the help!

 

[lisagr07]

just in case you are or aent being sarcastic, im gonna tell you anyway...

im not quite sure but i think it happens when a cham gets a cut/ open wound in its mouth and it gets infected. it usually happens around the gums near the teeth.

nope, i was being serious.....
i'm still relatively new and still learning about chams, recognizing illnesss and then how to get them back to healthy... i'm unfamilliar with mouthrot and wasn't sure if it was bacterial, fungal, result of an injury or improper nutrition....

thanks for the reply,, lisa

 

[ijmccollum]

Your pictures are not clear enough to be sure, but I don't see anything wrong. Still it will ease your mind to have him checked out.

I echo kinyonga, could be the pics but I don't see anything out of the oridinary either.... still, what kinyonga says, have him checked anyway.