Cage Size

drmdrm25

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Will this cage work for a Veiled Chameleon? Its 17x17x24 tall, its glass with screen on top and vent on bottom.
 
Unfortunatly that cage wont last for long, especially if you are getting a male. They can grow to be over 18'' long and need at least twice that in cage height. Owners here will tell you that it will need a cage of 2'x2'x4' once grown
 
Unfortunatly that cage wont last for long, especially if you are getting a male. They can grow to be over 18'' long and need at least twice that in cage height. Owners here will tell you that it will need a cage of 2'x2'x4' once grown

How long would it last for a Velied

What about for a Jackson Chameleon?
 
A veiled would probably out grow it by 8 months old.
While Jacksons are a much smaller species, they are generally considered to be needier in their husbandry, and will still need a much larger cage when full grown (8months-1year old).
If this is the cage you are set on using, I wouldn't advise getting anything larger than a pygmy
 
A veiled would probably out grow it by 8 months old.
While Jacksons are a much smaller species, they are generally considered to be needier in their husbandry, and will still need a much larger cage when full grown (8months-1year old).
If this is the cage you are set on using, I wouldn't advise getting anything larger than a pygmy


Well I was just wondering because a friend is offering me this cage for free. Is it okay that the cage is glass since it has a screen top, and a vent on the bottom? Will this cage work for a Veiled for a few months, till I can make a bigger cage?
 
The vents & screen should be enough ventilation, youll just have to more actively clean it to reduce bacteria growth. And make sure to give him a lot of stuff to climb on since he wont be able to climb the sides. As far as keeping a veiled in it for a few months, that should be fine depending on how old it is to begin with. Make sure the enclosure you make has screen/mesh on all sides though :)
 
The vents & screen should be enough ventilation, youll just have to more actively clean it to reduce bacteria growth. And make sure to give him a lot of stuff to climb on since he wont be able to climb the sides. As far as keeping a veiled in it for a few months, that should be fine depending on how old it is to begin with. Make sure the enclosure you make has screen/mesh on all sides though :)


I'm still not sure about building one though. Do you know somewhere I can get one for less that $80
 
DIY cages sell a variety of sizes shipped to your door for relatively cheap. I made my own cage for about $80. Got everything at lowe's and it was a lot easier than i had expected, turned out beautiful, was a lot sturdier than aluminum cages, and i got to do whatever i wanted with it :D
 
DIY cages sell a variety of sizes shipped to your door for relatively cheap. I made my own cage for about $80. Got everything at lowe's and it was a lot easier than i had expected, turned out beautiful, was a lot sturdier than aluminum cages, and i got to do whatever i wanted with it :D

How did you make the door on the cage?
 
Ill tell you that the main thing you will need to engineer for your cage will be a drainage system. Something to collect all of the excess water. There is a ton of info on here from people making DIY drainage systems, i suggest looking at what other people have tried
 
In terms of cost, in my limited experience, the enclosure was the least of my expenses when setting up for my boys. Drainage, feeders, housing for the feeders, misting system, live plants, branches, more feeders, food for the feeders, supplements, lighting, more lighting, more feeders...it all adds up and is never ending. Even things like zip ties and dowels add up. I know I could have done things cheaper but some things cost what they cost.

I went with DIY cages and have been very happy with them, I think they were $95 shipped for 2 x 2 x 4. I purchased the drainage pans for an additional $39 as well.

I know you can keep them on a budget but you have to consider all of the incidental costs involved as well as the unexpected costs. (Vet bills to name the most obvious)

Remember "there's no such thing as a free lunch". That free cage could end up costing way more than you can afford to put out.
 
In terms of cost, in my limited experience, the enclosure was the least of my expenses when setting up for my boys. Drainage, feeders, housing for the feeders, misting system, live plants, branches, more feeders, food for the feeders, supplements, lighting, more lighting, more feeders...it all adds up and is never ending. Even things like zip ties and dowels add up. I know I could have done things cheaper but some things cost what they cost.

I went with DIY cages and have been very happy with them, I think they were $95 shipped for 2 x 2 x 4. I purchased the drainage pans for an additional $39 as well.

I know you can keep them on a budget but you have to consider all of the incidental costs involved as well as the unexpected costs. (Vet bills to name the most obvious)

Remember "there's no such thing as a free lunch". That free cage could end up costing way more than you can afford to put out.

What all will I need to get the free cage going?
 
https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/enclosures/

Here is the forum link for setting up a chameleon enclosure. Truly you can be as simple or as extravagant as you want but there are basics that you can't do without. Check out that link it is a great resource of what you really need to get started.

Remember, the first person who responded told you that the size of the free cage would not last long. I put my Panthers in their big cages when they were 6 months old. Chameleons grow surprisingly fast.
 
you'll need lots of vines, plants, UV bulb, basking bulb, multivitamins, calcium powder, calcium with D3, crickets, cricket container, two thermometers, a hygrometer, misting bottle, cricket food, dome for basking bulb, hood for UV bulbs, paper towel, light timer, zipties, and suction cups.. Everything adds up..
The first chameleon I got was a red bar ambilobe.. counting the lizard the initial setup cost me about $1000.. and thats with a small 18"X18"X24" glass enclosure..
I'm currently building a new enclosure and I'd hate to add up the receipts for it and the stuff inside it.. It would be aprox $750.. Mind you the enclosure I'm building is glass and oak, 22'X28"x48" a screen enclosure thats 24"x24"x48" is ALOT cheaper, but even with a screened in cage your going to be looking at $500 before the chameleon is even purchased.

My panther is 8 months old and I'm already moving him out of my smaller enclosure, and my small enclosure is bigger than yours
 
https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/enclosures/

Here is the forum link for setting up a chameleon enclosure. Truly you can be as simple or as extravagant as you want but there are basics that you can't do without. Check out that link it is a great resource of what you really need to get started.

Remember, the first person who responded told you that the size of the free cage would not last long. I put my Panthers in their big cages when they were 6 months old. Chameleons grow surprisingly fast.

I'm planning on moving him into a bigger cage within 4 months of getting him.
 
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