cham eating habits changed

lyricalmiracle

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i might as well just tell this like a story of whats happened over the last few days, so:
(the cham in question is a 4 month old panther, male)

Saturday/Sunday - ate everything in site, about 6-8 crickets per day

Monday - a little less, about 4

Tuesday - didn't seem interested, just 2

Wednesday - maybe 0, i didn't see him eat at all

Thursday (today) - 3, but i literally just spent ages putting crickets with no legs one by one on a leaf in front of him, he took about 5-10 minutes before he ate them each time (i waited for him to eat one before i put another there). when i put a 4th in front of him he turned around and ran away.


he hasn't been hunting for the last 3 days, just basking. i've tried putting crickets in front of him or squishing their heads so they're twitching then putting them on a leaf near where he basks or walks (worked for one or two crickets but that was mon/tues) i've seen crickets literally walk in front of his nose and he doesn't react apart from paying them a glace every now and then. i'm keeping close watch on him via webcam but he just seems to walk past crickets. if one approaches him on a branch he turns around and runs away from it sometimes, or just seems freaked out as it crawls past him (i tried crickets smaller than i usually give him because of this behaviour but he still does it, he's scared of his dinner)

has been drinking loads, when he does poop it looks healthy, the urate is white. the only unnatural behaviour is that he barely eats. it has been a couple degrees cooler at night in there (about 68) and slightly cooler during the day too, would an increase in temperature boost his activity and hunting?
 
Mine has went thru the "hunger strike" and "cricket rejection" phases... dont feed him for a day... I bet he will be good and hungry... Offer some flies to him... if I want to see spectacular tounge shots I will throw in some flies and watch him hunt... chameleons cannot stand the movement of flies... it drives em wacky!

Hope this helps

Todd
 
ya, Could be he is bored with crickets. Have you tried other insects?
Could be he's not hungry (but usually they are always hungry at 4 months old). What is the basking temperature during the day?
 
Mine usually do this before they are due to shed.

When was the last time your cham shed?

My only other suggestion is he maybe bored with crickets. Are you feeding him a variety of food?
 
well i've ordered some "small" locusts but i'm not sure if they'll be small enough. i'm not suprised he's bored of crickets, but what else could i use? i'm from the uk so there isn't as much readily availble. it's mealworms, locusts, crickets or fruit/springtail flies mostly

i haven't seen him shed yet and he's been with me 3 weeks so i have been expecting him to shed. he's quite a slow grower and has never been a steady eater, but usually has an appetite
 
i'm from the uk so there isn't as much readily availble. it's mealworms, locusts, crickets or fruit/springtail flies mostly

Hm. Well Im in Canada so Im not sure what local bug suppliers there may or may not be. I recall a thread about someone in the UK finding Kingworms.... here it is: https://www.chameleonforums.com/morio-worms-15818/

Try searching for fish bait places? or spider clubs? or Praying Mantid clubs?

G & D BIOLOGICAL. London ENGLAND may have waxmoths? Phone: 081-364-63003
PEREGRINE LIVEFOODS.Essex ENGLAND. Phone: 0992 815 605.
TARANTULAS ETC. Southminster, Essex CM0 7AE, ENGLAND. Phone: (0621) 772979
WILD WORLD SUPPLIES. Epping, Essex ENGLAND. Phone: 0845 634 1111
 
Thats a great start with the locusts :D gutload them well and see if he likes them, if he does then most likely boredom is the challenge.

Livefoods.co.uk have superworms (Morio) which are much better than mealworms and would be a great snack for your cham. (get small ones as your cham is still young) They are easy to gutload and I gutload them the same as crickets - carrots, collard greens, kale, apples, oranges etc

I usually substitute a few crickets out weekly and feed these for variety along with silk and hornworms. Just be careful with them as they tend to be addictive (along with butter/waxworms).

Meal worms are not recommended as feeders because they are hard to digest (can casue impaction) and are not very nutritional at all. Some breeders do feed them if they are freshly molted (white) as they are easier to digest.
I am not sure of the availabilty of silk and horn worms in the uk but hopefully some other uk members can chime in to where they get there supplies from. I found a few sites but they were currently out of stock :(

If he still picks at his food he maybe ready for a shed especially if he is basking. Mine tend to do that so just keep his hydration up :)
 
Livefoods.co.uk have superworms (Morio) which are much better than mealworms and would be a great snack for your cham. (get small ones as your cham is still young) They are easy to gutload and I gutload them the same as crickets - carrots, collard greens, kale, apples, oranges etc

I am not sure of the availabilty of silk and horn worms in the uk but hopefully some other uk members can chime in to where they get there supplies from. I found a few sites but they were currently out of stock :(

If he still picks at his food he maybe ready for a shed especially if he is basking. Mine tend to do that so just keep his hydration up :)

i think morios will be too big, they only seem to come in one size - giant, so can't buy small ones. just mini mealworms.

i haven't seen silk or hornworms anywhere but somebody told me about phoenix/calcium worms on one website - but they're out of stock indefinitely by the look of it. shame.

fortunately he's drinking plenty but i'll up the misting incase he is shedding.

thanks everyone
 
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