Chameleon for the heat

[barnaby]

Hi all!

Long story short. I have an attic with lots of light and lots of space but with a few issues... low humidity and high temperature.
The low humidity can be fixed but the hight temperature (high 90, low 100) it's harder to deal with. In the winter it can be real cold, but then I could just put a heater...

If I'd want to use that space for a chameleon, which species can handle the heat better?

thanks!

 

[dodolah]

Hi all!

Long story short. I have an attic with lots of light and lots of space but with a few issues... low humidity and high temperature.
The low humidity can be fixed but the hight temperature (high 90, low 100) it's harder to deal with. In the winter it can be real cold, but then I could just put a heater...

If I'd want to use that space for a chameleon, which species can handle the heat better?

thanks!

With temperature that high, i don't think you can keep common chameleons that are commercially available alive.

Unless you can put an air conditioner that is going to be on most of the days during summer, i suggest you use other room.

 

[barnaby]

With temperature that high, i don't think you can keep common chameleons that are commercially available alive.

Unless you can put an air conditioner that is going to be on most of the days during summer, i suggest you use other room.

Thanks. Anyway, this was a far fetched idea to begin with. I'll keep the attic for storage...

 

[mika]

I'd suggest a bearded dragon instead. They take the heat pretty well, they don't need humidity & they're quite funny with the hand waving gestures & head bobbing.


But if you insist, you might want to check out a verrucosus.

Here's a link:

http://adcham.com/html/taxonomy/species/fverrucosus.html

It says in the wild they take temps up to 110F BUT it is humid where they live.

And I don't know if they can take those temps in a cage.

It's different when you're in an open area where there is fresh air rather than a possibly stuff basement (is it stuffy?)

Is this your first cham?

Additional info:

Oh yeah, I forgot to add, if you get a bearded dragon instead and it's cold in the basement during winter than that's perfect because beardies can brumate. I hope it doesn't go to freezing temps though..

 

[kinyonga]

Uromastyx also like it hot in the summer and hibernate in the winter...and they can take the low humidity. They are also vegetarian so you don't have to deal with insects. If you need more information about keeping them, I have kept malis and nigers and ornates for a number of years.

 

[dodolah]

yeah. but, if you read further they recommend daytime temp range from low 80 to 90 F for verrucosus.

This guy, on the other hand, might b able to withstand that constant heat, but I think you have to simulate the freezing temperature (50 F) during nighttime. (Plus, i heard none has been able to keep this species in captivity).
This guy has adapted to eating poisonous scorpions. How cool is that?!

 

[mika]

yeah. but, if you read further they recommend daytime temp range from low 80 to 90 F for verrucosus.

Yes I did read that part that's why I said I don't know if he can keep this cham in a cage in the basement because of the issue with no air flow

This guy, on the other hand, might b able to withstand that constant heat, but I think you have to simulate the freezing temperature (50 F) during nighttime.

Where do you see 50F?

It says a 10-15 degree drop at night is recommended.

I don't think 50F is freezing. It was just 54F here 2-3 weeks ago & that's spring.

 

[mika]

(Plus, i heard none has been able to keep this species in captivity).

What do you mean?

In Linda Davison's book it says they do well in captivity but do not like to be handled much. Prefers a temp range of 50-100F.

 

[dodolah]

Yes I did read that part that's why I said I don't know if he can keep this cham in a cage in the basement because of the issue with no air flow




Where do you see 50F?
http://www.adcham.com/html/taxonomy/species/cnamaquensis.html

It says a 10-15 degree drop at night is recommended.

I don't think 50F is freezing. It was just 54F here 2-3 weeks ago & that's spring.
the one you talked about is the verrucusous. The 50 F is for namaquensis (the pictured chameleon in my post)

anyway during the winter season, they said that the temp can go below freezing for the desert cham.

 

[mika]

Dude r u kidding me! He won't be able to get that species at all!

Were talking about something that he can put in his basement.

 

[dodolah]

What do you mean?

In Linda Davison's book it says they do well in captivity but do not like to be handled much. Prefers a temp range of 50-100F.

as far as i know, no one has able to successfully breed namaquensis.
I want to know if they have. Because, i would love to see how they care for this species, seriously.

 

[mika]

That's cuz I'm talking about a chameleon he can actually get his hands on like a verrucosus, not a namaquensis.. geesh!

Were talking about 2 different things here..

 

[dodolah]

Dude r u kidding me! He won't be able to get that species at all!

Were talking about something that he can put in his basement.

lol, I know!
That's why i suggest him getting another room
that namaquensis is not common at all.

 

[mika]

It isn't and I don't think they even export it legally.. HAHA..

It's like I'm talking about my blue shoes & you're talking about your red socks..lol

 

[dodolah]

It isn't and I don't think they even export it legally.. HAHA..

It's like I'm talking about my blue shoes & you're talking about your red socks..lol

HAHA..
I think 1 time a member in this forum exported it legally and tries to simulate their harsh environment.
Too bad the attempt was not successful.

 

[mika]

Yup, I remember Chris Anderson posted a reply on a thread about the namaquensis (not that he had one but someone else did)

 

[barnaby]

Thanks for the input... but apart of the verrucosus, I could not get any other cham mentioned here in Portugal.

Although the Bearded Dragon or the Uromastyx might be an idea... I'll look into that.

 

[mika]

Yup, beardies are pretty good. You can hold em, soak em, sun em.. Very hardy and perfect for your basement! You can even put them in aquarium tanks..

 

[mika]

Thanks for the input... but apart of the verrucosus, I could not get any other cham mentioned here in Portugal.

Hahaha, all that & you could not even get a verrucosus either . Yeah I should have asked where you were located.

You know you can update your profile and add your location. I think you click on your username on the top upper right hand corner of the screen & input location.

 

[barnaby]

Yup, beardies are pretty good. You can hold em, soak em, sun em.. Very hardy and perfect for your basement! You can even put them in aquarium tanks..

Geckos can also work under those conditions, right?