Chameleon

[PabloTheCham]

Anything we suggest is not going to make your mother say yes. If I was you I would talk to her and get the reasons as to why she says no and go from there. I spent about a $1000 on my setup and cham not including feeders. The size enclosure I have is not suitable for an adult male, so I'll have to upgrade and spend probably half my initial cost on a larger setup. If it weren't for the fact that I have tortoises which are similar in care I probably would've had died due the overwhelming anxiety setting up and maintaining a proper enclosure. I still worry about my setup and if anything is wrong. It's a lot of work to take care of a cham and on top of that you need to understand that you will also have to take care of your feeders also. Proper temps, humidity, food, etc. So, there is a lot of money, time, and stress involved.

Couldn't have said it better.

 

[SourGrape4u]

When us parents make up our minds it can be hard to change them. I told my son 2 years ago he will never download and play fortnite again. Still to this day he asks once a month and tries to convince me and I say nope. He lost it due to not doing what he should have with one of his pets that i put a lot of money into that i ened up giving away which is why he lost fortnite. So if your mom is saying no she probably has a reason, if there is no reason then wait closer to your birthday or Christmas and start asking again then. But the worst thing to due is bug the crap out of us when we said no! Meaning once a month asking is okay...more than that your gonna piss the adult off!

 

[PabloTheCham]

When us parents make up our minds it can be hard to change them. I told my son 2 years ago he will never download and play fortnite again. Still to this day he asks once a month and tries to convince me and I say nope. He lost it due to not doing what he should have with one of his pets that i put a lot of money into that i ened up giving away which is why he lost fortnite. So if your mom is saying no she probably has a reason, if there is no reason then wait closer to your birthday or Christmas and start asking again then. But the worst thing to due is bug the crap out of us when we said no! Meaning once a month asking is okay...more than that your gonna piss the adult off!

well, my parents went from that, to my playing call of duty. So things do change, it isn't a losing battle yet!

 

[CasqueAbove]

Chameleons are a lot of work and time.. not to mention they are pretty much money black holes. I spent 800-900$ on my setup and my veiled.. thats not even including maintaining his feeders, him, his cage, vet visits for if he gets ill, regular fecals, light replacements, etc etc. Thats only to list a few things. These are absolutely not a beginner reptile, unlike leopard geckos.

Yes, what are her reasons for not letting you get one?

gotta say this is right, For one of mine, I have as cheap a setup is Ok needs work, every thing diy or on sale. $200 no Cham, no food yet, Oh well I will raise my own, in $70 on that, oh wait 6 months, another $50 on lights.

ok so to the point, if you want parents to allow, get them to love Chams. Be honest about upfront cost, show you have saved it, plus, say $100 for incidentals.
Start with growing some plants for your Cham, show how nice it will look.
I don’t know your parents, so hard to say.
My kids are lucky because I am the animal person. About to convert my 14 year old son’s closet to a tortoise enclosure.

 

[SourGrape4u]

Lol i would do that to my son but the wife would kill me for converting his closet. We all know where the cloths would end up.

 

[CHIMP]

I remember when I was young I had a fascination for all reptiles but my parents where scared of them. I tried and tried to present logical cases as to what I would do to care for them but it did not matter. I took things into my own hands and started catching them and hiding them around the house. This did not work out well for me. For one I did not have proper set ups to care for them and two they would get out all the time only making my situation worse. I can not denigh it brought around some instances that where really funny (to me).
I would say present your case logically, and calmly. Show them you are serious and if that does not work well you have a long life ahead of you that you will be able to make those decisions for yourself. In the end it is there house and therefore there decision.

 

[CHIMP]

Fast forward 30 years later. I have owned just about all of it at one point or another. And I feel I am probably safe in saying most people like us have had or have a small zoo. The point is even if they say no. And you sould respect that. It is just a matter of time before you get it anyway. Mabe by showing them you respect there decision could change there minds. Your going to have to respect that chameleon. Maybe that's something they want to see from you.

 

[CasqueAbove]

Fast forward 30 years later. I have owned just about all of it at one point or another. And I feel I am probably safe in saying most people like us have had or have a small zoo. The point is even if they say no. And you sould respect that. It is just a matter of time before you get it anyway. Mabe by showing them you respect there decision could change there minds. Your going to have to respect that chameleon. Maybe that's something they want to see from you.

Life is long, when I was 14 I tried to get a horse and my parents stopped it, fair.
But I did eventually have a horse.

I fairness I already had plenty of pets. I had a water dragon for years that free roamed my room, she had a cat tree. My mom had to help me force feed.
We used hamburger lol, but the vitamin mix must have been ok, had her 6 years.
This was 40 years ago so husbandry was crap.

 

[huntergoodman]

Look into dubia roaches, they are wayyy better than crickets.

Can you please explain a little more about housing the food.

 

[The Wild One]

Advantages
-They don’t stink
-can’t climb smooth surfaces
-don’t fly
-Don’t make any noise
-live forever
-they are amazing at gut loading.

Disadvantages
-they take forever to get a colony going and breed
-most chams tend to turn away from them due to their lack of movement

Housing
-Stacks of egg crates, you can get these pretty much anywhere
-good airflow

Checkout @Gingeros videos on YouTube under “NeptuneTheChameleon” she does an amazing job of explaining gut loading.

 

[CHIMP]

Life is long, when I was 14 I tried to get a horse and my parents stopped it, fair.
But I did eventually have a horse.

I fairness I already had plenty of pets. I had a water dragon for years that free roamed my room, she had a cat tree. My mom had to help me force feed.
We used hamburger lol, but the vitamin mix must have been ok, had her 6 years.
This was 40 years ago so husbandry was crap.

That is interesting about the hamburger and vitamin mix. And your horse situation was right on my point. I myself have never had a horse but I am friends with alot of people that do own them. I have had alot of animals over the years. Mostly reptiles and some of the biggest. Burmese pythons, anacondas, sulcata tortoise, Nile and asian monitors. Since the restriction on most of these animals I have started getting into smaller ones. Boas, corn snakes, children's pythons, geckos and now chameleons. Chameleons I have always been fascinated with but I tend to kill them. I just did not understand the level of care they required. That took me a while, alot of research and still needed help from others that new them more than I did. 4 years into owning them and I am still no expert.

 

[salty dog]

I built my viv for $70.00 complete with lights 24 x 24 x 56!!! if you get a cage all set up and some feeders...there are some veiled chameleons for sale "HAMMY AND IVY BABIES"