Eggbound female

[chamlover]

I wanted to start a new thread because after all the comments i think everybody is right. It's not dehydration that is the problem, it is she might be eggbound. She is hydrated better now but she is still very weak. I need to make it until tomorrow when the vet comes back. Putting her in a bucket and even digging the hole didn't help. We found her laying on her side so i put her back in the hydration chamber. (for more info, read "Help, extremely dehyrated gravid panther". Is there anything else i can possible do that would help her lay her eggs?

 

[kinyonga]

As I posted on your other thread a couple of minutes ago...I think seeing a vet NOW is her only chance. From the way things look, I don't know if she will even have a chance then. Sorry to be so abrupt.

 

[DarkRapture]

is there a way to incorporate the extra humidity into the laying bucket? i would stop moving her and just leave her alone in there! the more stress and movement there is, she will lose the desire and possibly the energy to lay her eggs.

my question to you is why you did not have laying bucket in her cage after she was mated!!?? it gives her time to get used to it being there and also when the time is right there is no guessing she will know what to do. even when you noticed her at the bottom digging about, you still did nothing. it sounds very much like she is eggbound and has lost the energy to lay her eggs now. is there a way that you could take her to a different vet? her life is in grave peril! driving a few hours to see another vet may be her only chance, i hope that you consider it. do not wait, there may not be enough time left for her.

 

[venus]

Hello, I also have a veiled in trouble. She was not mated, but has eggs and is not laying. We do NOT have a vet that has any great knowledge of reptiles and such. She does need to lay very soon. She is not quite as lathargic as the above chameleon, but very, bulky. This will be her 2nd time of carrying eggs. Neither time has she been bred.
What can I do to help her?

 

[chamlover]

If all i had to do was drive a couple of hours for her to see a vet i wouldl We live in NH and there is only 2 in the state that even are a little bit familiar with reptiles, the one i go to is an hour drive. I didn't put the bucket in there because it was too early for her to lay the eggs it had only been like 15 days. I intend to be at the vets at 8 am and i will wait until he can see her. From the looks of it that is all i can do. My mistake for waiting and then misidentifying the problem. Her cage insn't big enough to put the bucket in, we usually put them in the bucket. You know garbage can filled with stuff and the lite and it has always worked. Like i said, it had only been 15 days since mating her! Anyway i know you didn't say that to me mean. I thought she was just dehydrated and wanted out of the cage because of that. It;s 10 pm and she is holding on. I can only hope that what i've done will help until tomorrow am. I'll let everyone know what happens. And thanks for all the help.

 

[kinyonga]

You said...."I didn't put the bucket in there because it was too early for her to lay the eggs it had only been like 15 days"...in order not to have to worry about when a chameleon is ready to lay her eggs, I always have a container of washed playsand in each and every egglaying females' cage from even before they are likely to be needing to lay eggs.

The container only has to be big enough for the female to fit into with a couple of inches to spare on all sides including above her when its empty. If a cage is too small for this then the cage is too small for the chameleon. The chameleon can then be moved to a larger egglaying chamber/trashcan/rubbermaid bin when she starts to dig.

I see you have other females...I would recommend that you put a container of sand in their cages if they are anywhere near sexual maturity or older so that they have a place to dig when they need to.

And no...(if you were referring to me)...I didn't say it to be mean.

 

[chamlover]

Just to give you an update. Tasha was at the vet's this morining. He loaded her up with fluids and some calcium and she looked much better after that. He also did an ultrasound and it showed that there was no unusually big eggs and everything else looked fine. He thinks that maybe it was dehydration and that that will do the trick. I will call him tomorrow to let him know what is happening and if i have to i will bring her back. I put her in her bucket for 5 hours when we came home. We had already dug a hole in there for her. She seemed to put her butt in there and every 30 minutes i checked on her ( she didn't know it) and she always had her butt in there and was in a different position. But after all that. No eggs. She is rehydrated now and in her bed for the night. Maybe after a good nights' rest she will be up to the task. The vet said if we have to the can do a c-section. Do you think he was kidding?
As far as the sand in the cages, no their cages aren't that small, they are 24 x 24 x30 for the females. But i thought the digging stuff had to be at least 15" deep. we use one of those 5 gal buckets. And yes we never thought of it, but we willl be adding those sand boxes to all of our females.

 

[DarkRapture]

i think that you may have been referring to my comments about being a bit harsh. i'm sorry but i was having the kinda day where all i was reading was sad news about chameleons...

on the other hand, i'm glad to hear that your female has improved!! its good to see that you are putting sand boxes in all the females cages also... the bucket is perfect for your cham right now so that she can lay her eggs.. it really does sound like she will be ready soon! i would keep up with the daily sessions of the 'bucket time' and also keep a back-up box in her cage too. i am glad that you are doing the right thing! again, i'm sorry about the strong comments earlier. i think that you are a competent cham owner and your actions are proving it! good work! hope everything turns out

 

[DarkRapture]

any good news yet? is she doing better now? i've been thinking about the little girl hoping that she is ok