FAO Florida reptile keeper's

[Pickle-cham]

https://phys.org/news/2021-03-foot-florida-wildlife-invasive-reptiles.html

Anyone have any further details of the proposed banned reptiles, i know that Yemans are classed as invasive but this article doesn't go into great detail.

 

[GrayMadder]

Dont know too much, but I found this article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article249541298.html

 

[Pickle-cham]

Dont know too much, but I found this article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article249541298.html

Yes similar detail in that article too, id imagine if veiled was to be banned it would be one of the headline species as they more commonly kept in captivity

 

[GrayMadder]

Yes similar detail in that article too, id imagine if veiled was to be banned it would be one of the headline species as they more commonly kept in captivity

It's hard to find a set list, but it looks like the biggest ones it'll affect are tegus and iguanas.

 

[MissSkittles]

Yes similar detail in that article too, id imagine if veiled was to be banned it would be one of the headline species as they more commonly kept in captivity

I doubt that chameleons have as big of an impact on native flora & fauna as the larger and more terrestrial invasive species. They primarily eat bugs and Florida has more than enough of those to go around.

 

[jamest0o0]

I doubt that chameleons have as big of an impact on native flora & fauna as the larger and more terrestrial invasive species. They primarily eat bugs and Florida has more than enough of those to go around.

Not a bad point there, wonder if they do cause any actual harm to the ecosystem? Tegus and pythons on the other hand...

 

[Pickle-cham]

Not a bad point there, wonder if they do cause any actual harm to the ecosystem? Tegus and pythons on the other hand...

By snatching from the mouth of native species . Depends on competitors.
Prolific breeders when conditions ideal, what would be there natural predators in the new world? Not sure the snapper s or gators could get them in the trees. Would the birds of prey of Florida be interested in them.

 

[Pickle-cham]

I doubt that chameleons have as big of an impact on native flora & fauna as the larger and more terrestrial invasive species. They primarily eat bugs and Florida has more than enough of those to go around.

They are on the invasive species list or catch no release. (My son watches K peiterson)

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

I couldn't find a definitive list either, but my guess is that there will still be a "by permit" provision, though IDK the details or difficulties in obtaining one.

I can't say I'm surprised at this; it was just a matter of time. I expect other states will follow.

 

[Livingstons Lizards]

So far it only list large pythons & constrictor like Burmese, Retics & Rock Pythons as well as Green Iguanas & all Tegu species.

 

[nightanole]

There is no point to the ban.

As others pointed out in the sessions.

"owners are not releasing several hundred dollar animals into the wild. Breeders are not releasing several hundred dollar animals into the wild. The ban only affects owners and breeders, it will not reduce the animals in the wild"

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

I think the point—as it often is—may be raising revenue thru permit fees.

If keepers and breeders did not release them, how did they get there?
IDK that "releasing" has to be intentional. A good blow (hurricane) can destroy a facility, releasing them into the wild. The question is who owned them (i.e. is responsible for them) when they escaped.

 

[MissSkittles]

I think the point—as it often is—may be raising revenue thru permit fees.

If keepers and breeders did not release them, how did they get there?
IDK that "releasing" has to be intentional. A good blow (hurricane) can destroy a facility, releasing them into the wild. The question is who owned them (i.e. is responsible for them) when they escaped.

It can’t be assumed that all keepers are responsible. All too often some people (we’ll call them ‘jerks’) succumb to the charms of baby animals and once the animal becomes full grown, the jerks decide it’s not so cute or small anymore and they don’t want it. Dogs, cats, iguanas, tegus, tortoises, snakes etc. are all victims of these jerks. Too bad the jerks can’t be banned.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

OK, that's semantics. I think—ostensibly—the permits may be intended to cut down on the jerks as well.

 

[nightanole]

We have dog licenses, to fund the dog warden etc. We dont have cat licenses. Do you think we have a problem with wild dogs or feral cats...

 

[Pickle-cham]

We have dog licenses, to fund the dog warden etc. We dont have cat licenses. Do you think we have a problem with wild dogs or feral cats...

Feral cats i bet

 

[JoXie411]

We have dog licenses, to fund the dog warden etc. We dont have cat licenses. Do you think we have a problem with wild dogs or feral cats...

Down with feral cats!!! I hate them, plz ppl don’t shoot me I just don’t like them pooping in my yard

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

Do you think we have a problem with wild dogs or feral cats...

Actually, both.

feral cats in the us
wild dogs in the us

Dogs Gone Wild: Feral Dog Damage in the United States​

 

[jannb]

I doubt that chameleons have as big of an impact on native flora & fauna as the larger and more terrestrial invasive species. They primarily eat bugs and Florida has more than enough of those to go around.

Unfortunately, chameleons will be on that list soon. It had gotten so bad in the Keys we had to move out of Florida last year after calling it our home for 22 years.

More info here on the FL ban
https://www.facebook.com/usarkfl/

 

[jamest0o0]

Not that I think banning animals is the answer, but what would be a good idea to stop these invasive species? It's pretty serious from what I understand.