Female Veiled acting very shy and elusive all of a sudden

Smudgereeroo

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Hello all, first some background:

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
--> Female Veiled named Zayna, about 8-9 months of age, with me since February '11

Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
--> As little as possible, I don't really handle her, though she used to voluntarily crawl onto my arm during feedings

Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
--> Bulk of diet is crickets, some mealworms now and then. About 10 medium to large per day. Crickets are fed a homemade gut load with ground organic dry dog food, rice baby cereal, oat bran, powdered skim milk; water crystals for moisture. Mealies are kept in oatmeal substrate with fresh fruit/veg for moisture, usually carrots.

Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
--> Calcium without D, light sprinkle most days, Calcium with D once every 2 weeks, Herptivite multi once a month

Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
--> Reptifogger on timer, 30 minutes every 3 hours. This is set up so that the mist cascades down a plastic plant, where the water condenses and drips into a non functional waterfall dish. I have never seen Zayna drink

Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
--> Dark brown feces, generally solid and cylindrical. White or occasionally light yellow urate

History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
--> Zayna used to eagerly come to me at feeding time. I would always feed her a couple of crickets by hand before releasing the rest to be hunted, and she would often climb onto my arm to go after the crickets

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
--> 18"x18"x3' wire mesh enclosure (pic attached)

Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
-->Exo-terra solar-glo 125W. 12 on, 12 off lighting

Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
--> 80 to 90 daytime temp. range. Lowest overnight temp. about 70. daytime temps measured with Exo-terra thermometer.

Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
--> Humidity about 60% between mistings, maintained by Reptifogger. Measured by Exo-terra hygrometer

Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
--> No live plants, only plastic

Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
--> Cage is in my study, not near fans/vents, quietest room in the house. Top of cage approx. 5' from the floor

Location - Where are you geographically located?
--> Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
--> Lately (approx. the past 2 weeks) Zayna has become extremely shy. When ever she sees me she hurries away and hides in her foliage. I can't get her to eat out of my hand or a cup which she previously would eagerly do, and she's often an unhappy dark green/brownish colour, although I've caught her a more happy lighter green when I first come in the room or when she's sleeping. She is still eating the crickets I release into her enclosure, but not in front of me. I'm just wondering if this could be a sign of physical illness, or if it's more of a behavioural thing. I have been spending more time in my study lately, and not long before she started acting weird I did a big clean-up in this room, which might have freaked her out. I also don't know when I should start worrying about her becoming gravid, so maybe looking out for pre-egglaying changes in behaviour?

Any help/tips/advice would be very welcome. Thanks!

Michele
 

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Do you have a laying bin for your girl? At that age she may have eggs. You are keeping her way to hot and she needs a larger variety of feeder that are very well gutloaded. I'm attaching a couple of my blogs for you. The first is about general care and there's a section for the female and the second is about egg laying and the laying bin.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blo...-keepers-young-veiled-panther-chameleons.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/jannb/345-egg-laying-laying-bin.html#comment824
 
Thanks Jann,

I tried feeding a number of other feeders (butterworms, silkworms, dubia roach babies) but Zayna wouldn't eat any of them. And now that she hides when I'm around, I'm not even sure how to feed her mealworms, as I always hand fed them before. Should I leave them in a dish at the bottom of the cage? Or attach a dish to one of her branches? I'll raise her lamp to lower her temps now that I know that its better for females to be cooler, and put a laying bin in with her. I knew I was going to have to, but the guy who I asked at my local reptile store said she wouldn't become gravid for some time yet. But this sudden change in behaviour has made me wonder if he might have been wrong.
I'm just trying to be the best chameleon mummy that I can...I have experience keeping all sorts of exotic pets: tarantulas, sugar gliders, ferrets, fish, dogs, cats, but this is my first reptile so I need some hand holding!

Thanks again!
 
i see you have a waterfall down there i personaly dont use them because as many people say "its a breeding ground for bacteria"
 
Yeah, the waterfall is empty and has no pump, I just use it as a more decorative form of catchbasin for water drips, and empty it out daily. I read the same thing somewhere, but Zayna was a gift and she came with the waterfall.
 
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