Flukers Calcium with D3

[seanUTD]

So in another thread they got to talking about D3 over-supplementation using ReCal and I use the Flukers with D3 at every feeding, it was inconclusive to me wether I was over-supplementing.. I haven't seen any negative effects but I wanted to be sure.. I have looked and across the internet it seems that the fluker levels of D3 would be too low for over-supplementation but I would like to be sure...

 

[carol5208]

You do not want to give any supplement with d3 at every feeding no matter what the concentration of d3. You cham is getting d3 from your UVB light already. If you take him out in the sun, he is getting more d3. Supplementing every day is too much. Cut back and do it a few times a month or once a week or something if you are worried about the d3. And you might not see negative effects immediately but rather over time. The repcal has a very high level of d3 in it. you would have reasearch the Flukers to find out how much d3 it contains or look at your bottle, what does it say?

 

[seanUTD]

100,000 IU/pound

 

[fluxlizard]

There is only one way to find out and that is to you have chameleon's blood checked.

That is the only way unless something is obviously wrong with your chameleon.

You are probably best off following the general advice here on the forums in regards to supplementation schedule and product brands, or following the same advice from a multi-generational breeder who has worked with lots of animals, rather than trying to guess and re-invent the wheel.

Have you damaged your chameleon? I doubt it.

Is it a better idea to use the products and schedule that is repeated most often here on the forums? Yes. At least until you have enough experience to make a more educated guess about switching things up.

 

[seanUTD]

There is only one way to find out and that is to you have chameleon's blood checked.

That is the only way unless something is obviously wrong with your chameleon.

You are probably best off following the general advice here on the forums in regards to supplementation schedule and product brands, or following the same advice from a multi-generational breeder who has worked with lots of animals, rather than trying to guess and re-invent the wheel.

Have you damaged your chameleon? I doubt it.

Is it a better idea to use mostly without d3 occasionally with, absolutely.

Gotcha.. I actually got confused because in another thread it WAS a multi-generational breeder who talked about using repCal with no problems... hence confusion /: I will look for a proper supplement.. But I am having trouble finding a correct guide... Any good links?

 

[fluxlizard]

You cham is getting d3 from your UVB light already. If you take him out in the sun, he is getting more d3.

All of this is true, but keep in mind that adding uvb and/or sunlight does not equal adding more d3 beyond what is taken in from the diet, necessarily. It is impossible to overdose d3 from the sun- the body simply stops making d3 when it has enough from the sun. So, while it is possible to provide all the d3 the lizard needs from sunlight, if enough is already provided in the diet it is not possible to move levels beyond enough and into too much by adding sunlight.

Of course the correct amount in the diet is the big mystery here.

Which is what makes sunlight such a safe option for d3 in the first place- always provides enough and never too much.

And which is also why it isn't an emergency if more d3 has been given in the diet than 1x every couple of weeks. Just fix the schedule and the products to line up with what most here are recommending and the lizard can safely make his own in the amounts he wants.

 

[fluxlizard]

Gotcha.. I actually got confused because in another thread it WAS a multi-generational breeder who talked about using repCal with no problems... hence confusion /: I will look for a proper supplement.. But I am having trouble finding a correct guide... Any good links?

That might have been me- I bred multi-generations all throughout the 90s and used repcal every feeding when my lizards were indoors (they were outdoors summers by the latter part of the 90s).

I never experienced a problem that I know of from too much d3 (and I necropsied many chams in that time- I have relatives who are vets).

That doesn't mean what I was doing is the best idea. See my post just above this one for why.

It just means you probably have not harmed your lizard if it appears healthy. Just change to the "normal" schedule recommended nowadays on the forums.

 

[sandrachameleon]

So in another thread they got to talking about D3 over-supplementation using ReCal and I use the Flukers with D3 at every feeding, it was inconclusive to me wether I was over-supplementing.. I haven't seen any negative effects but I wanted to be sure.. I have looked and across the internet it seems that the fluker levels of D3 would be too low for over-supplementation but I would like to be sure...

I would not use the fluckers with D3 at every meal. You may be better off gutloading properly and using rep-cal or stick tongue brands, IMHO.
You may find these blog entries useful:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/65-supplements.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/174-whats-supplements-brand.html

 

[chamzilla91]

Lol saw your thread and I was like "hey this person comented on my thread and turns out we both did the exact same thing basically" here's a link to what I ordered after realizing my mistake http://www.reptilesupply.com/product.php?products_id=119