Furcifer verrucosus (any one keeping them???)

[Ryan Jarosek]

I picked up a beautiful CB pair of young f. verrrucosus from Tiki Tiki this weekend.

I wanted to inquire about care etc, and see if anyone else keeps them?
from what I understand, where they come from they can endure extreme temperatures. I am looking for some setup help and any advise current or past keepers.

Any and all information would be appreciated. I have a feeling this will be one of those threads everyone will look at but not have much input. . If you know someone who keeps them it would be great to be pointed in their direction as well.

From Adcham "F. verrucosus generally occupies semi-desert coastal environments where day time temperatures may reach 110ºF (37.5ºC). "

and also from Adcham:

"In evaluating local temperature and humidity data the experienced keeper understands simply because some parts of a habitat may reach extremes in temperature and humidity does not mean that the animal necessarily exposes itself to such extremes."

In regards to the quotes; What basking temperatures are generally used??? Do I provide a 100ºF+ basking spot.

The second quote is not very clear to me. Does that mean because the environment reaches 110+ they will avoid basking and move out of the extreme. I am a little confused. If someone a little smarter could interpret I would appreciate it

 

[Julirs]

Correct me please if I am wrong, but I beleive that Oustalets come from the same area? I have one CH that I have raised from a baby and one female WC that came in at about 6 months old. What I have found with these guys is that even though they did OK inside, they THRIVE outside. Of course I live in coastal Florida whch mimics their natural environment to some degree. They do enjoy a bit warmer basking spot, but they are also active in basking in different cage locations a few times a day. I believe they both have a basking spot in the winter that is about 92, but in the summer outside I do not use basking lamps, but the temps do reach upper 90's. I wish I had more cage space-I would have a pair of Spiny's myself! They also seem to like large food items!

 

[sandrachameleon]

"In evaluating local temperature and humidity data the experienced keeper understands simply because some parts of a habitat may reach extremes in temperature and humidity does not mean that the animal necessarily exposes itself to such extremes."

Does that mean because the environment reaches 110+ they will avoid basking and move out of the extreme. [/FONT]

I know nothing about these. But yes, that's how I would interpret the quote. They come from areas that have extremes, but they will range within their natural environment to avoid those extremes. I think I would not provide a 110 basking spot. But if your enclosure is big enough, perhaps you could provide a hot 95F basking spot and see if it is used or if the chameleon keeps to cooler areas of the cage? On the other hand, some young chameleons are stupid when it comes to heat. Maybe avoid high temp experiments until they are older!
... good luck!

Maybe ask if anyone has a copy of CiN No. 15 as it deals with F. verrucosus

 

[Nicodemayo]

You bought my cb female i was gonna nag from chad! Its ok though, you beat me to it . Ryan from what i understand verrrucosus from the info ive gathered is that most people just keep them the same way as panthers. I planned on keeping the humidity like a panther but have a basking spot of a veiled. Congrats on your new critters.

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

Thanks for the responses

Right now I am treating them as if they were 3 month old veileds (They are 3 month old now) So I have the temps a little lower. I will start to raise them as they get older.

In the summer temps in the high 90's are normal at my house. I may give them some good outside time then. They are so beautiful. I will post some pics on this thread when I have some time to photograph them this afternoon.

I cannot wait to watch them develop. I cannot believe this chameleon is not kept more.

Keep it coming.

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

You bought my cb female i was gonna nag from chad! Its ok though, you beat me to it . Ryan from what i understand verrrucosus from the info ive gathered is that most people just keep them the same way as panthers. I planned on keeping the humidity like a panther but have a basking spot of a veiled. Congrats on your new critters.

Doh! ... sorry man. I have inadvertently done that to more than one person. I think I have a chameleon and gecko problem. "My name is Ryan, and I'm a... We'll save that discussion for another thread.

Awesome info , thats pretty much how I have them now. The basking is not as high yet mostly because they are pretty young and small.

 

[sandrachameleon]

Thanks for the responses

Right now I am treating them as if they were 3 month old veileds (They are 3 month old now) So I have the temps a little lower. I will start to raise them as they get older.

In the summer temps in the high 90's are normal at my house. I may give them some good outside time then. They are so beautiful. I will post some pics on this thread when I have some time to photograph them this afternoon.

I cannot wait to watch them develop. I cannot believe this chameleon is not kept more.

Keep it coming.

Please keep us updated with pictures and anything you learn.

 

[Vegas Chad]

You bought my cb female i was gonna nag from chad! Its ok though, you beat me to it . Ryan from what i understand verrrucosus from the info ive gathered is that most people just keep them the same way as panthers. I planned on keeping the humidity like a panther but have a basking spot of a veiled. Congrats on your new critters.

That is how I have been keeping my adults.

 

[Ryan Jarosek]

That is how I have been keeping my adults.

Excellent ,

Thanks again chad. I have been looking at pics and reading what I can. I am really excited about keeping these guys. It was my favorite purchase at the show (out of 15). With the girl for My Dr. Gonzo a close second and then there is that yellow nosy be female. OMG , that was such a great show. Ahhhhh.... what a great weekend and the perfect fix for my addiction.

 

[sttines]

This species is extremely shy. Give them privacy.

 

[Brad Ramsey]

I considered them at one point and was planning to keep them exactly the same way I keep the veileds.

-Brad

 

[jinx]

I picked up a beautiful CB pair of young f. verrrucosus from Tiki Tiki this weekend.

Hello I am new to the forum and I have kind of an irrelevant question to this thread. What is Tiki Tiki? Do they have a website? Thank you!

 

[Brad Ramsey]

They do.
You'll find the link in Vegaschad's signature.

-Brad

 

[Vegas Chad]

Tiki Tiki? Bunch of weirdos I think...

New site will be up soon too! Will be MUCH MUCH more good'r.

 

[jinx]

HAHA! Thank you!!

 

[Kent67]

Current weather conditions in Southern Madagascar: http://weather.yahoo.com/Fort-Dauphin-Madagascar/MAXX0007/forecast.html I haven't kept them in many years but like Sttines said, they were very shy animals. Yours looked great at the show, should be a lot of fun watching them grow too.