BabyChamCham
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So I'm thinking of getting a 60watt grow light off amazon. Will any reptile light. Fixture hold the bulb? Or will I have to get a special one? Thanks.
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Virgil1972
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What kind of base does the light bulb have?
BabyChamCham
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Oh never mind. I found my own answer. Thanks though 
guanagator
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Just FYI that will throw off a decent amount of heat and if it's CFL style bulb then may cause eye issues with chameleons.
JGuinan007
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I use this http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-75-Watt-Agro-Plant-Light-BR30-Flood-Light-Bulb-415281/202766841 in one of these https://www.chewy.com/flukers-clamp-lamp-dimmer-85-inch/dp/129141?utm_source=google-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=hg&utm_content=Fluker's&utm_term=&gclid=Cj0KEQjw4827BRDJvpbVuKvx-rIBEiQA2_CzsHca96HsFT-bBvdFn4GFKCVZRVS_r3hMycttj_Fd_FYaAtMp8P8HAQ the dimming is great to change basking temp
cyberlocc
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erm correct me someone if I am wrong but plants need 6500k range to grow. Some plants need reds to flower, reds would be lower spectrum. that bulb is borderline worthless for growth at 2700k?
JGuinan007
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I don't know my plants grow with no issues I do have this also http://www.petmountain.com/product/...nH0bl1IhHGT006q4I8GqFAOiOIIWh1TVLIaApGe8P8HAQ perhaps the red led s help
guanagator
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The bulb above is more optimized for flowering phase, vegetative will be better around 6000k. Personally use two 6500K one 3000K range and a UVB arcadia in quad T5 hoods.
BabyChamCham
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Wait. I'm confused...
So what grow light is the best?
So what grow light is the best?
cyberlocc
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Wait. I'm confused...
So what grow light is the best?
6500k, or 6400k, around 6k.
Unless you use LEDs then in that case the best would be a 6500k white LEDs and some 660 Reds. Reds bloom, so unless you have flowering plants they are pretty much worthless, 6500k is for growing afaik.
So the way the spectrum works, is zero is reds, blues are highs. Plants need either full spectrum, or a light that hits what they need. They need more blues to grow, but reds to bloom/flower. 2700/3500k/4100k are some common bulbs you will see in normal lights. They are also referred as soft light, or cool white, or warm white. They have alot of reds and a red hue to them.
6500k, will also be labeled as "Daylight" bulbs, as they are considerable brighter and have the blue hue like real daylight.
They are not as bright as 6500k, not at all. This is why most house bulbs are 3500-4100, 6500k is best for plants though.
At least that is what I have been reading, the past few days I have been looking into it heavily.
If you have the space, FLO tube 6500k would be best, aside from LEDs (They are best, but pricey). Be careful buying "Cheap" LED setups for like fish tanks, they do not produce anywhere near enough PAR for a 4foot tall cage.
Though neither does the Zoomed, Pay close attention when buying LEDs to there lumens and par ratings. They have a cage size they are rated for, and exceeding it makes them way way less efficient. In the case of the Zoomed that is a 18 inch tank (tall). So if you have a high light plant, it needs to be within 18 inch of the light, or the light will not be enough (there again depends on the plants light needs).
Best IMO, from my research, would be either a Jungle Dawn spot (White Only) or a High End reef LEDS, or high wattage T5HOs (lots of them).
This of course depends on what you are growing, and how lit you want your cage. My ideas are for a bioactive cage with a living wall and lots of high light plants, if you just have a low light plant or 2, then demands wont be as intense.
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BabyChamCham
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The plant I'm growing is a small umbrella plant. Also known as a money tree.
BabyChamCham
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Will a Philips 75-Watt Agro Plant Light BR30 Flood Light Bulb work?The plant I'm growing is a small umbrella plant. Also known as a money tree.
cyberlocc
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The plant I'm growing is a small umbrella plant. Also known as a money tree.
Ya so a Umbrella Tree (schefflera) and a Money Tree (Pachira aquatica) are 2 different trees with different needs.
By itself, likely no. It would help flowering but not growing. However maybe someone more experienced could chime in.
That said, as I said before. I would use a Flo bulb or LEDs, that is an Incandescent, and any growing site you read the first they say is do not use incandescent bulbs.
The reasons are,
1. Look at its wattage to lumens, its 75watts and 750 lumens. That is horrible, the Jungle dawn spot uses 40ws and produces 3700 lumens. Then check out a bulb like this one Spectralux, that is a 2ft Flo, its 24 watts and produces 2000 lumens.
2. This leads back into number 1. Heat, the reason the bulb you asked about doesn't produce a lot of light, is incandescent are not efficient. The cannot use all the power to create light (nor does anything really), they are extremely inefficient actually. This becomes wasted and dispersed as heat, in a grow only situation these factors combined mean the bulb has to be closer to the plant. When the bulb is closer to the plant in case of an Incandescent it burns the plant.
We use Incandescent heat to our advantage, as our basking bulbs. However using one as a Plant bulb is just not correct. On top of the reasons it is by far inefficient for the purpose. It will also dump more heat into the enclosure and hurt your temp gradients, you have just created a second basking area by using that.
If you wanted to use that light as your basking bulb, and add a real grow light (LED or T5HO) that would likely work well. By itself and adding another basking area in a small cage, no that is a horrible idea.
All that said, Icandescants IMO outside of basking, are worthless in every way. They are good for people that want a cheap quick light bulb. That is it, they use more power to produce less light, and create heat as a by product. Outside of a use case where the heat is needed, they are worthless.
JGuinan007
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Works well for my schefflera and pothos not sure about money tree oh again not sure if it makes a difference but I also have a zoomed led ubv hood too
BabyChamCham
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Ya so a Umbrella Tree (schefflera) and a Money Tree (Pachira aquatica) are 2 different trees with different needs.
OK that's what I thought. But its what the guy at the store said...
By itself, likely no. It would help flowering but not growing. However maybe someone more experienced could chime in.
That said, as I said before. I would use a Flo bulb or LEDs, that is an Incandescent, and any growing site you read the first they say is do not use incandescent bulbs.
The reasons are,
1. Look at its wattage to lumens, its 75watts and 750 lumens. That is horrible, the Jungle dawn spot uses 40ws and produces 3700 lumens. Then check out a bulb like this one Spectralux, that is a 2ft Flo, its 24 watts and produces 2000 lumens.
2. This leads back into number 1. Heat, the reason the bulb you asked about doesn't produce a lot of light, is incandescent are not efficient. The cannot use all the power to create light (nor does anything really), they are extremely inefficient actually. This becomes wasted and dispersed as heat, in a grow only situation these factors combined mean the bulb has to be closer to the plant. When the bulb is closer to the plant in case of an Incandescent it burns the plant.
We use Incandescent heat to our advantage, as our basking bulbs. However using one as a Plant bulb is just not correct. On top of the reasons it is by far inefficient for the purpose. It will also dump more heat into the enclosure and hurt your temp gradients, you have just created a second basking area by using that.
If you wanted to use that light as your basking bulb, and add a real grow light (LED or T5HO) that would likely work well. By itself and adding another basking area in a small cage, no that is a horrible idea.
All that said, Icandescants IMO outside of basking, are worthless in every way. They are good for people that want a cheap quick light bulb. That is it, they use more power to produce less light, and create heat as a by product. Outside of a use case where the heat is needed, they are worthless.
BabyChamCham
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Thanks for all the help
cyberlocc
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The Zoomed LED hood is working for your plants, not that grow light. Unless you are using it as a basking light, I would just pull that thing out
.It could in theory work well, in combo with a 6500k light (your LEDs are giving that) however whats the point? Especially for you as your LEDs have 660 lights already, the only thing the light is doing for you is adding heat.
JGuinan007
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ok what bulb should i replace it with
cyberlocc
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Honestly your zoomed is likely enough, if you want to add more I would get a double fixture for your UVB light and add a grow light to that
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