Handling Advice

Nicholaskerns1106

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Hey everyone! I just wanted to stop by and share my experience with handling my veiled chameleon.

Before i got my chameleon, i read every single article that exist about handling chams. My cham is a year old, and i want to share my story so other people interested in handling their cham may have better luck.

Almost all sources will claim that chams are not the animal you want if you wish to handle them frequently. This made me apprehensive about buying one, because i wanted an animal that would enjoy being handled on a daily basis. However, the chameleon is such a cool animal and i HAD to get one. Because i am stubborn, i ignored all the media that claim chams generally do not like being handled, and i took a chance anyway.

I got him as a 3 week old baby, and set him up in a small reptibreeze. For the first 2 months, i would reach in and bring him out, but i could tell he was not comfortable. Not much movement, looking horrified of his surroundings. After about 3 more months, i read an article that suggested to leave the cage door open, and let him come out on his own. After a few weeks, he finally started coming out on his own, and i would intercept him for a short handling session, and put him back. This system worked for about 2 months, and one day while i was trying to intercept him, he opened his mouth and hissed violently. After that day, i left him alone for about a week.

After that week, i started trying again. But after he came out on his own, he would flip the fuck out as soon as i got near him. Tail curling and uncurling, hissing, swaying back and fourth, and even giving a hard bite once. After this, any time i tried putting my hand in the cage, he would lose his shit in the same manner i just described. At this point, i was discouraged and fed up.

I made the decision to try and sell him, and i was going to use the money to buy a bearded dragon or iguana or something. Nobody was interested. He stayed in the cage with no attempts at handling for an additional 2 months. Once i realized he wasnt going to sell, i thought id take a new approach. I started purchasing wax worms and fed him by hand every evening. I would not extend my hand into the cage with the worm, but have my hand outside of the cage door. I thought that this would convey that i want to help him, but i also do not want to invade his space.

After a week or two of this, my cham seemed very interested in the cage door. Constantly scoping it out, exploring the screen and corners, as if he wanted to come out. One day, i put my hand in a flat position at the cage door, and waited for him see me. I slowly opened the door, and after a few seconds of hesitation, he climbed right on my hand. We continued to have a brief handling session where he was visably happy! Climbing from hand to hand, bright green, and comfortable!

After the last few months of doing this EVERY SINGLE DAY, i can proudly say that my cham literally destroys all stereotypes about handling chams and their distaste for it. Every single day when i get home from work and he sees me, he will scratch at the door until i come over, open it up, and let HIM come to me. We have a great time together for about 5 minutes, and i put him back. 9 out of 10 times as soon as i put him back, he will try to make me bring him out again. He absolitely loves it! He literally behaves like a dog when the owner gets home from work. I handle him for 5 minutes, every single day, which most experts will think is unhealthy. I never bring him out against his will, and i never reach into his cage. He makes the decision all on his own. He only comes out when he shows me he wants to come out, which i just mentioned, is every single day without fail.


So in conclusion, my goal in this article is to provide a bit of information to those who are interested in purchasing and handling a cham. I lerned 2 major lessons which are as follows:

1. There is no cut and dry. Chams have different personalities, and there are too many variables that affect their behavior. Listen to the experts on the internet because the info is VERY helpful....but nothing is guarenteed.

2. Dont give up! If i would have sold my cham when i was upset with him, we would have never made it to this amazing point in our relationship. Try different things, take advice, and dont lose hope.

I hope this article will shed light on the topic that i heavily researched before i purchased my cham. When it comes to this topic, all i have to say is that it CAN be done!

"Bambino" today vs 1 year ago
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Wow that's awesome! When I got my first Cham for my birthday she absolutely LOVED to be held. But one day when I reached my hand in the tank to give her her food (I put crickets in a cup and set the cup on the bottom of the tank propped up against her vine) and she turned dark brown and hissed at me and she had NEVER shown any signs of aggression before and so I left her alone for a while. From now on she always turns dark and hides any time I try to feed/hold her. She's about 4 months old I believe I've had her for about 1 month or so she is a female Veiled named Lizzie. Any advice? What should I do? I saw that yours got aggressive and I was wondering if u possibly had any tips :rolleyes:
 
Stark loves to be handled. He goes tothe door of the cage and waits for me to open it. Then he crawls on my hand and lets me pet him. When I first got him (almost 7 months ago at 5 months of age) he was very aggressive. He would lunge, hiss and gape. I started to hand feed him and use a plastic chop stick to get him out. One day I left the cage door open and he came out my himself. Ever since then he has wanted out all the time. His personality has blown my expectations. I thought he would never like me but boy did he prove me wrong!
 
Hey there! Im sorry you are going through that. As you know from reading my article, i lived it. Your story is interesting because when bambino was lizzys age, thats when he started getting aggressive. Maybe chams are like people, and go though the bitchy teenager stage lol!

My only advice would just to have patience, and to make lizzy interested in coming out on her own. The hard part is making her interested in coming out, but also have her know that any time she wants to come out, YOU are on the other side. Dont do what i did and let them come out and explore on their own, THEN try to step in. Try hand feeding the same way i did. Put a worm on your hand, open the door, but dont put your hand in the cage. I feel like this conveys 2 messages. First, that your hand is a positive thing that gives it treats, and second that you have no interest in invading her personal space. This will arise curoisity and eventually acceptance that if she is coming out, shes under YOUR control. Try to keep the hand feeding on a consistant basis. Same amount, same time of day.

Once she gets used to this, after the feeding, leave your hand right outside the door, away from her. At a distance that lets her know that she can come out if she wants, and give it a few minutes. You probably wont get results right away, but keep trying for a week. These creatures are totally smart and i feel like when i was doing this to bambino, he understood. It took a while, but once he got used to the idea, he got some courage and went for it.

Let me know if you have any luck!


Wow that's awesome! When I got my first Cham for my birthday she absolutely LOVED to be held. But one day when I reached my hand in the tank to give her her food (I put crickets in a cup and set the cup on the bottom of the tank propped up against her vine) and she turned dark brown and hissed at me and she had NEVER shown any signs of aggression before and so I left her alone for a while. From now on she always turns dark and hides any time I try to feed/hold her. She's about 4 months old I believe I've had her for about 1 month or so she is a female Veiled named Lizzie. Any advice? What should I do? I saw that yours got aggressive and I was wondering if u possibly had any tips :rolleyes:
 
Hey there! Im sorry you are going through that. As you know from reading my article, i lived it. Your story is interesting because when bambino was lizzys age, thats when he started getting aggressive. Maybe chams are like people, and go though the bitchy teenager stage lol!

My only advice would just to have patience, and to make lizzy interested in coming out on her own. The hard part is making her interested in coming out, but also have her know that any time she wants to come out, YOU are on the other side. Dont do what i did and let them come out and explore on their own, THEN try to step in. Try hand feeding the same way i did. Put a worm on your hand, open the door, but dont put your hand in the cage. I feel like this conveys 2 messages. First, that your hand is a positive thing that gives it treats, and second that you have no interest in invading her personal space. This will arise curoisity and eventually acceptance that if she is coming out, shes under YOUR control. Try to keep the hand feeding on a consistant basis. Same amount, same time of day.

Once she gets used to this, after the feeding, leave your hand right outside the door, away from her. At a distance that lets her know that she can come out if she wants, and give it a few minutes. You probably wont get results right away, but keep trying for a week. These creatures are totally smart and i feel like when i was doing this to bambino, he understood. It took a while, but once he got used to the idea, he got some courage and went for it.

Let me know if you have any luck!
Thank you so much!!! I will try that
 
Thats great! Nothing is better than having a cham that likes to be handled...its trumps any other reptile when you reach that stage as we have. However i wanted to ask you if you have any advice about cage upgrading. My guy is a year old now, growing like a weed, but still in the small reptibreeze. He is super active, and loves his environment. When is it approptiate to buy the next size up? Its one of those things that i want to ask someone with experience. As you read in my article, my guy is really happy, so i dont want to throw off his vibe. Any input? You can see him on the front left
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Stark loves to be handled. He goes tothe door of the cage and waits for me to open it. Then he crawls on my hand and lets me pet him. When I first got him (almost 7 months ago at 5 months of age) he was very aggressive. He would lunge, hiss and gape. I started to hand feed him and use a plastic chop stick to get him out. One day I left the cage door open and he came out my himself. Ever since then he has wanted out all the time. His personality has blown my expectations. I thought he would never like me but boy did he prove me wrong!
 
Damn really?! You dont think i should take it a little slower? Going from small to extra large seems drastic. Any specific experience or reasoning behind it?

QUOTE="Theveiled, post: 1283240, member: 42448"]I would buy one now. An Extra large 2'×2'×4'[/QUOTE]
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Thats a pretty small set up for a veiled. It does not give him a lot of room to move around, hide, or thermoregulate. It also looks like you have a CLF UVB bulb. I would suggest getting a tube UVB. They have much better UVB output and spread it out over a much greater area.
 
Thank you so much for the advice! Im going to do that asap

Thats a pretty small set up for a veiled. It does not give him a lot of room to move around, hide, or thermoregulate. It also looks like you have a CLF UVB bulb. I would suggest getting a tube UVB. They have much better UVB output and spread it out over a much greater area.
 
Damn really?! You dont think i should take it a little slower? Going from small to extra large seems drastic. Any specific experience or reasoning behind it?

QUOTE="Theveiled, post: 1283240, member: 42448"]I would buy one now. An Extra large 2'×2'×4'
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I would definitely get the extra large. He will be so much happier. It may take time to adjust but he will. Stark is small because he had coccidia but loves his extra large cage.
 
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