HELP Cocccidiose! what next?! please assist

[jurjenfromholland]

so my mate has a bearded dragon and has coccidiose and larve eggs in his poop soo.. i got nerfes because the dtragon came from the same shop as mine veiled .. aprox 1 year and 10 months old veiled..
so i brought some poop today and pee and yes... coccidose
now i got a plastic needle and the medicine that is named
toltrazuril if i spell it right is stand give 0.2 ml for each kilo..
first i wanna know if someone has ever done this and which way is the best to do it i know how to open his mounth so that would be a problem,,
but im a bit scared with giving medicens to my veiled it says use it 3 day then stop 10 days and then give it 3 days.. because the coccidioses has diffrent stages.. thats what the docter told me and advice please thx !

 

[jurjenfromholland]

Noone...?? :-(

 

[Lovereps]

Good thing you got nervous enough to have a fecal done.
Toltrazuril is also sold as Baycox, so you can find posts about it under either name.
It is reported to work well.
here is some good info on how to get your cham to open his mouth:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/opening-cham-mouths-85207/

 

[Olimpia]

Usually the best trick to getting a chameleon to open his mouth is to put a finger on each cheek from behind his head. This usually makes them gape, since they don't like it. (Almost like I'm doing in the photo below.)

Make sure to put the syringe far back into the mouth, as chameleons don't have their airway where we do. So put it far back so you don't get any in his airways by accident.

 

[Lovereps]

Usually the best trick to getting a chameleon to open his mouth is to put a finger on each cheek from behind his head. This usually makes them gape, since they don't like it. (Almost like I'm doing in the photo below.)

Make sure to put the syringe far back into the mouth, as chameleons don't have their airway where we do. So put it far back so you don't get any in his airways by accident.

Olimpia, thank-you for posting that!
I have wondered if I'm being cruel when I do this, but my chams open up very quickly and it is the fastest method from start to finish.

 

[jurjenfromholland]

So the medicine is the good stuff??
And what happens if it comes accidantly in his airway??

 

[Olimpia]

Olimpia, thank-you for posting that!
I have wondered if I'm being cruel when I do this, but my chams open up very quickly and it is the fastest method from start to finish.

You're welcome!
In this photo I was trying to take photos of his mouth for a vet so I actually have him picked up like this (like you would a parakeet) but essentially you can do something similar to get them to gape. It's the only time I ever approach them from above, so they don't hate me for it lol. But it usually works the fastest and lets you be done and over with it in seconds.

 

[Olimpia]

So the medicine is the good stuff??
And what happens if it comes accidantly in his airway??

He will get the medicine in his lungs and probably cough to try to get it out. It's like if we get water in our lungs, it's never very good.

 

[jurjenfromholland]

And the amount of medicine that i neesd to
Give is right to??

 

[jurjenfromholland]

So i weighted me veiled chameleon
And he weighs 175 grams.. Does anyonr has a
Meth how i can calculate how many of the medicine i need
To give??

 

[chamcapture]

Check out this thread https://www.chameleonforums.com/toltrazuril-coccidia-99397/. What strength are you using? if it is 50mg/l you will use .09ml for your cham!

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

Check out this thread https://www.chameleonforums.com/toltrazuril-coccidia-99397/. What strength are you using? if it is 50mg/l you will use .09ml for your cham!

Whoa. Let's get the concentration from the OP first before determining appropriate dose because not all drugs are the same concentration and the one you posted is much different from the other threads you linked to (50mg/L very different than 50g/mL!).

OP - please tell us what the concentration of the toltrazuril is.

 

[jurjenfromholland]

Its says 10 ml 25 mg/ml??

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

Perfect. Then your dose at 5mg/kg for a solution 25mg/ml would be 0.03ml, which is the same dose your vet recommended at 0.2ml/kg.

Take home lesson: Never assume drug concentration because that is how disasters happen.