Mountain Dragon
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Okay an hour before bedtime yoshi has been wandering alot so it’s his bedtime and I turn lights off and do the routine and 30 minutes later he’s still wandering in the dark what do I do
Help! Wandering cage at night
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MissSkittles
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There really isn’t anything you can do. He’ll settle down on his own and get some sleep.
CasqueAbove
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Tell him no crickets tomorrow if he doesn’t go to bed. Lol
Seriously though unless it’s going on all night don’t worry. I have seen it, like oh no I forgot to pick a spot for bed
Seriously though unless it’s going on all night don’t worry. I have seen it, like oh no I forgot to pick a spot for bed
Mountain Dragon
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Thankyou you guys. Kinyonga yea absolutely no lights in the roomRead him a bedtime story about the Amazon Rainforest and deforestation and how lucky he has you as an owner (that part you can sing a song for him).
Plus, did you go to sleep when your parents put ya to bed? Probably not.
On a serious note- i have had both Veiled and Jacksons hunt at night. So makes me think they are capable of seeing a little during dark. So, if you have food in the cage that might be something. They also feel vibrations and temp/breezes which can trigger activity. Also, other animals have their own time clock for feeding, basking etc...
We humans have: CR
"Circadian rhythm is a biological clock that is built in our brain throughout the functionality of everyone's day and night processes within a 24-hour clock frame and it devises our body to function in a healthy way of daily routines. " Thank you google search.
I have always wondered with WC's if their time schedule is from the other side of the world and find it hard to adjust. But don't have the experience with WC animals.
We humans have: CR
"Circadian rhythm is a biological clock that is built in our brain throughout the functionality of everyone's day and night processes within a 24-hour clock frame and it devises our body to function in a healthy way of daily routines. " Thank you google search.
I have always wondered with WC's if their time schedule is from the other side of the world and find it hard to adjust. But don't have the experience with WC animals.
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Mountain Dragon
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Thank you for this info!
Klyde O'Scope
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Just for clarification, at night (nocturnal) or more like close to lights-on/off (crepuscular)?
I ask because years of camping in the Adirondacks taught us many bugs are most active around sundown & just after. The noise was deafening—almost like a horror movie.
+1.
FWIW:
https://reptilesmagazine.com/the-reptilian-biological-clock/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11282129/
https://aces.illinois.edu/news/circadian-rhythms-influence-animal-behavior
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All bearded dragons outside Australia have been captive bred since the 1960s, when Australia banned their export. Yet some—many generations removed—still brumate during Northern hemisphere summers (Australian winters) while others (most?) brumate during their adopted home winters, and some don't brumate at all. No idea what those living on the equator might do.
I can see where WC chameleons may adjust slightly, but I'm not sure how, as they don't brumate, and "winter" in many tropical locations is more a matter of rainfall. Mating season?
dinomom
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For what it's worth my imported kinyongia who had been at Petco a week (but of course not sure how long at importer) was instantly on the "correct" schedule. I suspect that with a pineal gland sleep/wake cycle is is more related to light? A "simpler" meaning more primitive method than humans' biological clock?
(Interestingly some of my carn. plants that are supposed to grow only in winter have to come to me from Australia. They are ALWAYS screwed up, and it takes a couple of years to get them on the right schedule. It has to be done very carefully and some don't can't seem to change and don't make it.)
Not to take away from OP-- Thanks M D for asking and your concerns
Dinomom it is worth a lot since struggling to get my pitchers growing but now know a factor I didn't experience. I will put all together for success this coming up year. Research does not always help with everything.
Sorry for words and type o's.. My computer keyboard works some of the times and does a crazy auto correct so have wireless k-board making corrections. But Santa will be nice in January.
2 am was a captive b Jackson and 4 was Veiled (both born here)- I did not see their eyes but watched their tongue strike and eating.
Dinomom it is worth a lot since struggling to get my pitchers growing but now know a factor I didn't experience. I will put all together for success this coming up year.
Research does not always help with everything. Once at 2:00 am and a different time at 4:00 am (Saul just last week superworm). I have seen many times over the years but was asleep during 11 and 1:30 am most of the time. It is DARK DARK DARK not even a night light (no longer scared of the dark)
Sorry for words and type o's.. My computer keyboard works some of the times and does a crazy auto correct so have wireless k-board making corrections. But Santa will be nice in January.
2 am was a captive b Jackson and 4 was Veiled (both born here)- I did not see their eyes but watched their tongue strike and eating.
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Thanks you Klyde O'Scope--- Your connection to articles are priceless.. I worked too hard to figure things out but have enjoyed it all.
Just to comment on the noise with insects..
In Hawaii (many years ago) I stayed up all night with a pen light just to observe crickets in a terrarium and learn their chirping, breeding, eating, digging and laying eggs behavior.. So I have been weird for a long time.
Didn't even know C R was an all animal term.. Just know we have it.. To much learning today-- I need a nap.
Just to comment on the noise with insects..
In Hawaii (many years ago) I stayed up all night with a pen light just to observe crickets in a terrarium and learn their chirping, breeding, eating, digging and laying eggs behavior.. So I have been weird for a long time.
Didn't even know C R was an all animal term.. Just know we have it.. To much learning today-- I need a nap.
Klyde O'Scope
Chameleon Enthusiast
It's just goggle.
@Klyde O'Scope ...your second link is interesting....I wonder about chameleon eggs now!
The skin and circadian rhythm...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6777699/
https://www.mdedge.com/dermatology/...adian-rhythms-does-time-day-you-use-skin-care
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0945053X19301696
Chameleons and night vision...
https://thepetenthusiast.com/can-chameleons-see-in-the-dark/
The skin and circadian rhythm...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6777699/
https://www.mdedge.com/dermatology/...adian-rhythms-does-time-day-you-use-skin-care
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0945053X19301696
Chameleons and night vision...
https://thepetenthusiast.com/can-chameleons-see-in-the-dark/
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Klyde O'Scope
Chameleon Enthusiast
Isn't there a website that simulates (via filters & other manipulation) how different animals see, i.e. what they see?
Or have I got that wrong? I've been searching, but no hits.
Or have I got that wrong? I've been searching, but no hits.
Can't wait for ya to find it.. Since I am into Jumping spiders they were able to attach thin wires into their optic nerve or something like that and get an idea how these 8 eyed creatures see (there is a video of the experiment). WAY over my thinking level. Maybe someone has done it with Chameleons too.
My observation with Saul--- One eye--- His blind eye moves normal and when he eats, it moves to strike position like the good eye. So would think the muscles are independent until shooting tongue... WEIRD!!!!!!!!
My observation with Saul--- One eye--- His blind eye moves normal and when he eats, it moves to strike position like the good eye. So would think the muscles are independent until shooting tongue... WEIRD!!!!!!!!
Mountain Dragon
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No worries at all!Not to take away from OP-- Thanks M D for asking and your concerns
Sonny13
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That was interesting to read.
Mine sits in a high activity room, with lights and tv on during the evening and sometimes at night. Max half a hour after her lights turn off, she’s asleep at her sleeping spot. I think it’s like with humans, one can sleep everywhere with noise and everything, and others are light sleepers! One thing all three of my Cham have in common, is the fact they know at which point they need to get to their sleeping spot and once ’their’ lights turn off, they go to sleep.
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