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Memorie_kaitlyn

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Please help me! I've had my Chameleon, Artemis, for a few months now and recently she has stopped eating, popping and has been on the floor and won't get up. She doesn't change color except a green, so she's probably not stressed. I read that she might need to lay eggs so I got her a bucket of sand, as suggested, and she has been laying in the sand for the past few days. I went to check on her when I got home from work and noticed a black squishy ball type thing in her sand. She also has something blackish coming out of her butt. I'm really scared because she hasn't eaten in a long time. No crickets, mealworms, nothing. She hasn't pooped either and she won't stay in the branches when I put her up there. Last time I put her up there, she hung upside down for a long time. I don't have the money to take her to the vet and I'm really worried. If I have to take her to the vet, I will but if there's anything I can do, I'd rather do that. Also, I got her some vitamins in a little dripper and gave her some of that but she wouldn't open her mouth... I don't know what to do!!
 

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Here is some recommended information to include when asking for help in the health clinic forum. By providing this information, you will receive more accurate and beneficial responses. It might not be necessary to answer all these questions, but the more you provide the better. Please remember that even the most knowledgeable person can only guess at what your problem may be. Only an experienced reptile veterinarian who can directly examine your animal can give a true diagnosis of your chameleon's health.


Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
  • Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
  • Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
  • Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
  • Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
  • Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
  • Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.


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The only way she could possibly lay the eggs at the moment is if she has a spay surgery. I honestly would consider putting her down with how severe her mbd is. And I don't say this lightly since I have taken in some pretty bad cases. But during the entire time of her recovery she is going to be using her calcium levels to not only fix bones/etc. But also will be using a lot of calcium at least 3 times a year to lay eggs. In my opinion there will be no way to get ahead in time. The kindest thing to do is put her down.
 
Do you really think so... I feel like a terrible person, but honestly I don't think I was ready to care for a chameleon, I did all of my research and everything but I'm just a teenager and I don't want my Chameleon to die but I don't want her to be in pain.. do you think there's no help?
 
Memorie_kaitlyn said:
Do you really think so... I feel like a terrible person, but honestly I don't think I was ready to care for a chameleon, I did all of my research and everything but I'm just a teenager and I don't want my Chameleon to die but I don't want her to be in pain.. do you think there's no help?
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please fill out that form. don't feel bad, chameleons are just very fragile. i'm 12 and i had my female veiled pass in september. i can relate. that form will really help us find out the cause and help your cham now and prevent this from happening in the future.
 
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - veiled, female, about 8 months maybe, and I've had her for about 6
  • Handling - not often because I read it was bad to hold them
  • Feeding - a mix of crickets and super worms every other day but she won't eat
  • Supplements - repticalcium
  • Watering - a mister with a little hose, it runs almost all the time
  • Fecal Description -no recent droppings ???
  • History - been healthy until recently

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - bough directly from a chameleon box package at the pet store
  • Lighting - ^
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps? I'm not sure...
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
  • Plants - none
  • Placement - on a little desk by the window in the corner of my room about 2 feet up, the cage is a few feet tall
  • Location - Tennessee

Current Problem - Mbd ??


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I do agree you should fill out the form, but she will need vet intervention no matter what and if you want to stop her from getting egg bound ever again spay her. However the problem is I don't know if there is any vet that will perform a surgery on her in the state she is in. Though there is nothing wrong with asking. If you spay her you shouldn't have to worry about eggs ever again. But I am also worried about that black thing you are talking about. If it is what I think it is, it is a prolapse that has turned necrotic, though honestly your picture of it isn't great. A surgery for a chameleon is never inexpensive, some people are lucky enough to spend around 300 or so dollars but most run around 700+
 
Memorie_kaitlyn said:
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - veiled, female, about 8 months maybe, and I've had her for about 6
  • Handling - not often because I read it was bad to hold them
  • Feeding - a mix of crickets and super worms every other day but she won't eat
  • Supplements - repticalcium
  • Watering - a mister with a little hose, it runs almost all the time
  • Fecal Description -no recent droppings ???
  • History - been healthy until recently

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - bough directly from a chameleon box package at the pet store
  • Lighting - ^
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps? I'm not sure...
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
  • Plants - none
  • Placement - on a little desk by the window in the corner of my room about 2 feet up, the cage is a few feet tall
  • Location - Tennessee

Current Problem - Mbd ??


Pictures are helpful
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first of all. YOU. NEED. PLANTS!!! do you use calcium with or without d3? how often?
 
first of all. YOU. NEED. PLANTS!!! do you use calcium with or without d3? how often?[/QUOTE]
I read plants were bad but I don't know. I have everything from the starter kit
 

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You have no plants? Not even fakes? That would cause problems with drinking. You need a better feeder range. Do you gutload you feeders? Why is your mister on all the time o_O? You need to get a digital thermometer of some sort for temps.
 
Memorie_kaitlyn said:
first of all. YOU. NEED. PLANTS!!! do you use calcium with or without d3? how often?
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I read plants were bad but I don't know. I have everything from the starter kit[/QUOTE]
please read through the caresheet. it has everything you need to know. it's not your fault, pet stores don't know what the heck they are talking about.
 
OK I looked at all of the stuff. Unfortunately I can't afford to pay for the surgery or whatever else because I get payed minimum wage... But im looking at her now and her eyes are closed and she's not moving?? I picked her up and no reaction. Sprayed her with water, no reaction. She is breathing.. I don't want to cause her any more pain.. what do you think the best suggestion would be?
 
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