Hey I Could I Get Some Help?

[Ultrakd]

Hi Im new to the comunity and I was wondering if I could get some help. Im hopping to get some Veiled Chameleons but I wanted to ask some questions 1st. My first question is I was wondering if I could feed Veiled Chameleons mealworms or superworms. Also I was wondering what the smallest size enclosure 2 Adult Veiled Chamelons could be kept in. I appreciate all the help.

 

[THEO555HUGHES]

The Smallest I Would Put Them In Is A 24x24x36

 

[Chase]

1st of all welcome to the Forum! And to answer your questions. 1st, you could feed them that but I would also use crickets, roaches, and silkies or hornworms. 2nd, I WOULDN'T put 2 Yemen Chameleons together. They would stress each other too much! Plus they would try and breed, it would be a mess.

 

[Justin Carl]

I usually cup feed my supers, but try to stay away from the mealworms.
They arent the greatest feeder.
I would say the largest cage for a breeding pair, one male and one female, would be 8'x4'x6'.
They arent very social animals, and if you got two males they may fight.
Just the sight of eachother could cause a lot of stress.
You would be better off with two 24x24x48 aluminum cages.
You could keep the two cages side by side if they had a vision barrier between them.
Just a simple piece of plywood or opaque plastic would be enough.

 

[Chase]

Ya, I agree with the 8' X 4' X 6' thing, but if you really wanted to keep a pair together then you could do that but I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[Brad Ramsey]

Do not think about keeping a pair of veileds in an enclosure together.
You have a bit of research ahead of you concerning these animals ...
Let me help you get started:

http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/

-Brad

 

[Ultrakd]

Which would be better Jackson or Veiled Chameleon. I would love to ger 2 Panther or Carpet Chameleons but since Im 13 I dont have a job that pays that well. I was told by the guy from FL Chams I could house 2 adults Veileds (Male and Female) in a 2'x2'x4'. WHat is the smallest size for a breeder tank.

 

[Chase]

Veiled! Jackson's are a bit harder. Veiled's are cooler I think also.

 

[Ultrakd]

I was thinking of making an enclosure instead of buying one. But if I made the top and front of the enclosure screen would that be enough ventlition?

 

[RhettusMaximus]

chams

Chameleons are an animal you don't want to take shortcuts with. Some enclosures do have 3 sides that are screen and 2 sides that are glass, but i would recommend getting or making an all screen enclosure (other than the framing and the floor of the enclosure).

It would be in my opinion, a good idea to save money, do alot of research on these animals, and then when you have everything you need for them make your purchase. Before I bought my chameleons I made sure that I knew the basics front and back, facts like Humidity, Heat, not housing these animals together, furnishings, enclosures, use papertowel or news paper instead of substrate, foods, calcium regiment, knowing the importance of proper UV lighting, and just husbandry in general.

It's alot of stuff to know, but when everything is done properly chameleons are an exciting and rewarding animal to invite into your home. Do your homework, stick to a plan, and you will have great success with chameleons!

 

[Ultrakd]

Before I buyanything I make sure I know everything I can first. I just thought since the back is going to be against the wall it wouldnt get much ventilitation and the sides are going to be against other enclosures it wouldnt get much ventilitation. But I guess a little is better than none

 

[Justin Carl]

https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/justin-carl/20-caresheet.html

 

[Jeweledchameleons]

You can keep two females together in a mid size cage
depending upon their size it's better to house them in smaller cages
so that they can more easily find the smaller feeders provided.

IF two females are kept together they can (depending) get along well enough
to share a larger cage together without any real problems.
As long as they have enough to eat and aren't bothered by the other when on cycle.
problems will be limited.

Re feeders:
the wider the selection you have the better
mealworms are fine but not as a stable feeder
I tend to crunch the heads of the "superworms"
because they can bite and cause eye damage.

There's lots to learn here ... enjoy.

 

[kinyonga]

I do not recommend keeping pairs of veileds together in the same cage once they are about 4 months old....not even two females. I have seen this done and heard of this being done with the result being that one or both starts to go down hill and if not separated one (or both) will die.

If you keep a male and female together they will mate when they are sexually mature even if they are not full grown....so you will "force" a female to lay fertile eggs when she still has to complete her own growth.

If you have two females together, you may run into stress-related problems when they start producing eggs.

I don't even recommend that they are even within sight of each other constantly.

There are some species of chameleon that can be housed together as long as the keeper is aware of their "relationship"...but IMHO veiled is not one of them.

BTW..here are some sites you might like to read...
http://www.adcham.com/
http://www.chameleonnews.com/
http://web.archive.org/web/20060502...als.com/vet/index.php?show=8.Gout.Basics.html
http://www.uvguide.co.uk/index.htm

 

[Ultrakd]

ALright guys Ill just have to find a spot in my room for 2 18"x18"x36" vivs in my room.

 

[chamlover]

Another thing to remember, don't let them see each other either!!!!That would be just as bad. Don't spend your hard earned money one 2 beautiful chams only to lose them to stress. Maybe you should just start with one and become a regular on the forum. You can learn so much here. Even experienced keepers make mistakes, so your correct in doing your research first. If you do decide to get 2, don't let them see each other, and they have very VERY good eyesight.

Debby

 

[Ultrakd]

HOw do you guys put your plants in your vivs? DO you put anything ove the dirt.

 

[Julirs]

I either put window screening cut to the shape of the pot with holes for the branches to come out of, or large river rocks so they cannot get at the dirt. I even have some chams with exposed organic dirt if I feel I can repot them so that none of the "store" dirt or perlite or fertilizer is left. I also agree with starting with one male Veiled. Chams are a considerable amount of work, and that way you will know if you want more. I have been keeping them since Dec. 06 and have also managed to have to make a few Vet trips which are not cheap. I recommend saving up a bit of money for he "just in cases".

 

[Ultrakd]

Would it be ok to just spray the Chams with a spray bottle instead of having a drip system and an automatic sprayer?

 

[Julirs]

I have always only misted mine with a spray bottle. 3X daily! It is super time consuming but I don't mind. All of my chameleons are healthy and hydrated. But-don't think that I am not consdering Promist as my collection grows!