Just a silly a youngun move?

[sauer]

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Issue:
Yesterday morning, I noticed my little girl shoot for a cricket, her tongue hit it and all, but it looked like the cricket just bounced off.

Should I be worried? Signs of dehydration? Any tips on force hydrating, I haven't seen her drinking her the leaves much lately, & runs when I try to put a few drops by her mouth (i think that has to due with the fact that she cant close her right eye, right now, either.... also, possible dehydration???)


Any advice will help, thank you.
(i've included a couple pictures of her inflicted eye)

 

[alexbrock]

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[sauer]

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I could copy paste it to here, if you cant click on my name.

 

[alexbrock]

got it!!!!!

 

[alexbrock]

From the pic her arms look like they have MBD. What illness did she have before?

 

[sauer]

She did have MBD when placed in my care 3 weeks. Her UVA/UVB light was too low & her diet was like 5-10 COVERED in reptivive or reptocal.
I replaced her light with an appropriate 10.0 reptiglow (places further from cage so its not so intense, but covers more area), & am gutloading crickets with a kale/tuna mix to make sure shes getting all the calcium she needs. The superworms are fed kale overnight before she gets em.

 

[alexbrock]

She did have MBD when placed in my care 3 weeks. Her UVA/UVB light was too low & her diet was like 5-10 COVERED in reptivive or reptocal.
I replaced her light with an appropriate 10.0 reptiglow (places further from cage so its not so intense, but covers more area), & am gutloading crickets with a kale/tuna mix to make sure shes getting all the calcium she needs. The superworms are fed kale overnight before she gets em.

sounds like shes in good hands now. keep up the good work.

 

[sauer]

Heh, thank you. I was able to get the MBD in check, its the tongue & eye thing im worried about now.....


ANY FORCE HYDRATION TIPS ANYONE?

 

[ktravelet]

I've seen some people say that they wet the roaches, crickets ect before the feast. It wont be much more water, but it will help a little.

 

[KarmaChams]

I also spray my crickets with water before feeding when this happens. The first hit probably won't stick, but they seem to appreciate it.

 

[chameleoman]

she looks really over wait

 

[sauer]

Chameleoman, are you saying that based off the first picture? She doesn't like the camera in her face and was puffing up her neck.

If not, I'm curious why, & I will post more photos.

 

[chameleoman]

hey dont get all affended im just saying on the first photo her nick is really fat and when chams get mad they get skinny not fat

 

[sauer]

Oh okay, like I was I saying, I was only curious about why you thought she looked overweight. Thanks for clarifying, but I think she's okay for now, only 4 months old.

Chameleons have many different ways of showing they are being intimidated, for instance the unique way they change color! Heres a link to a blog discussing how some chameleons use their necks.

 

[ataraxia]

if your care sheet under your name is the same..you were given advice on your care on your other threads that still has not been addressed.

im not sure what you want.... if your not taking advice, researching that info and then applying it.

just an example:

sauer: Supplements - Reptivite with d3, reptoCal with d3, alternate between the two one feeding per week, looking today for the pure calcium drops i've heard talk of.. Both supplements have crazy high levels of Vit A so i dont like using a lot.

Veiledchams: Again, soft bone wont get fixed like this. You have to dust the feeders with calcium WITHOUT D3 EVERY feeding. Dust with calcium WITH D3 twice a month and herptivite (W/O D3) twice a month. This is the supplementation schedule I use and many others here use. Excessive D3 is just as bad as lack of it. And your girl needs calcium so you need the calcium without the D3

sauer: Temperature - Multiple thermometers will show the basking area to be 85-95 (on really hot days here its hard to keep her temps down, constantly moving bulb, buying lower wattage asap), hunting/drinking area 70-78. At night drops no lower than 70. No lights on at night.

Veieledcham: those temps are too high for your girl. Shes gonna be producing huge clutches of eggs from having so much food and heat available to her. That is BAD news if she has had bone problems. 80-82 should be the tops on that female so she doesnt produce gigantic clutches. I understand you're in the desert, but you gotta do what you can to bring that down.If you're not able to get a lower wattage bulb, I wouldnt use one.

 

[melric]

If hydration is what you need feed her horn worms and silks. Extra misting and showers work too.

 

[melric]

hey dont get all affended im just saying on the first photo her nick is really fat and when chams get mad they get skinny not fat

I don't know how you can determine a cham is overweight without a full body pic?

 

[ChameleonNerd]

your chameleon's casque is fat. that could be due to overweight, or over supplementation. next, force hydration. there are 2 main ways

1. The easy way: Get a syringe, fill with room temp water. feed chameleon a cricket, or their choice of food, and while they're munching, squirt water in a slow, stead stream on to it's lips. she/he will suck it up while eating.

2. Annoyance: Fill a small glass, or plastic dish with water. Put one food item at a time (cricket is the only one i have used) they float, and will float and bat around. Your chameleon will attack it. While attacking it, they will get a lot of water. Sometimes they will not be able to get a grip because of the water, but will drink plenty

3. The desperate way: Get a syringe, and fill with water. Grab chameleon to piss it off, and squirt water on to the bottom of it's mouth.


Hope this helps
-Alex

 

[ataraxia]

your chameleon's casque is fat. that could be due to overweight, or over supplementation. next, force hydration. there are 2 main ways

1. The easy way: Get a syringe, fill with room temp water. feed chameleon a cricket, or their choice of food, and while they're munching, squirt water in a slow, stead stream on to it's lips. she/he will suck it up while eating.DO NOT DO THIS!!

2. Annoyance: Fill a small glass, or plastic dish with water. Put one food item at a time (cricket is the only one i have used) they float, and will float and bat around. Your chameleon will attack it. While attacking it, they will get a lot of water. Sometimes they will not be able to get a grip because of the water, but will drink plentypretty inventive.

3. The desperate way: Get a syringe, and fill with water. Grab chameleon to piss it off, and squirt water on to the bottom of it's mouth.
DONT DO THIS EITHER!

Hope this helps
-Alex

sorry 1/3 are not good ways. alex if your are doing these please stop doing this. i have to give it to you on 2 though. thats interesting.

 

[ChameleonNerd]

i admit, 3 is a bit torturous, but number 1 is completely safe as long as your chameleon is comfortable with you, and you don't squirt it. just a steady stream