Lost my female too. Tremetodes?

rcmike

rcmike

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Yesterday I noticed my Female Dwarf Jackson's chameleon wasn't looking too good. I managed to get home early today and was going to call the vet but it was too late. She was hanging from a branch with blood coming out of her mouth. I decided to cut her open to see what I found and as soon as I cut these started oozing out.


Are these tremetodes? She had so many I doubt much could be done. There were a lot more than in the picture.
 
Thanks. Oddly I couldn't find much information on them but I found a picture that looked identical.

I was planning on taking her and a new baby veiled to the vet to have them checked out but I was trying to find a good one. I can't find anyone around here that could recommend one for chameleons. With the amount she had I don't think she could have been saved anyway. I couldn't believe how many were in her. I am going to stick to CB chams, at least until I get more experience. I was intenting on going with a baby veiled to begin with but found these guys. I guess I learned my lesson.
 
Sorry for the loss but its to be expected when dealing with WC even if you do take them to a vet in the beginning it still no guarantee that they will survive captivity.
 
Yeah, I know that now. I guess it is just like the seahorses I have. WC is always a gamble since they can have a very heavy parasite load. CB are much more healthy usually.
 
Ya. But it is unusual to see CB Jacksons. Well at least I haven't seen any for a while. Sorry for your loss Rcmike!
 
I wonder. Could the male have had them too but they were inside the organs so I couldn't see them when I cut him open?
 
Umm maybe but I don't think it would be likely. You would have seen it like the female. Thats my opinion.
 
They have a couple of clutches a year...but part of the problem is that most people don't do well with getting the babies to survive as well.
 
kinyonga said:
They have a couple of clutches a year...but part of the problem is that most people don't do well with getting the babies to survive as well.
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I hate to deviate away from the original topic - which is sad, but VERY informative. Thanks for posting the pic Michael!

Kinyonga; as you know I've been working with the montanes almost exclusively for the last several years, but not with the Jackson's specifically. Do you find the Meru's have more than one litter a year? I have not heard of many reports of it, but again the successes are few and far between.

Cheers!
Trace
 
kinyonga said:
"Two clutches per year are possible"
http://www.adcham.com/html/taxonomy/species/chjacksoniimeru.html
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Yeah, I read that about the Meru's and Xanths for that matter. AdCham and Necas claim the bitaeniatus have multiple clutches a year and I have yet to witness that. I'd get the first spring mating and subsequent litter, but none after that. Not having seriously worked with any of the Jackson's species, I was curious if that 2 litters a year was really true.

Cheers!
Trace
 
sorry for your loss,
They could have been
At first glance I thought that they looked like some fatty tissue that have been cut
by your incision.
but then I got a closer look at things..
They may have invaded the lungs and there is lots of fluid there
it seems like she was infected with some parasite.
There seems to be some segmentation there

The real test is if they actually move on their own.

Assuming that they are some fluke worms
you'll have to take measures to clean out your other animals
and their cages 100%

also:
Also the next time you peer inside...
I've always found it helpful to go in from under vs the top or side of the animal.
You can then avoid the ribs and lessen the risk of cutting any organ and get a nice view inside.
 
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sorry for your loss

I was wondering, how do you treat for these flukes, with antibiotics? The reason I ask is I have some regular Jacksons I just got about a month ago and they were checked by my vet. Theyre ok but this scares me if you cant find any evidence of them in a fecal check. What do you guys think?
Thanks Derek:confused:
 
JeweledChameleon, they did move. At first I wasn't sure what they were until I saw them move. They would extend and contract. I am going to take the cage outside and clean it as soon as this rain quits. I am just going to get rid of the plants and clean the cage. The cage is aluminum and screen so it should be pretty easy to clean.

I disected the male that way but figured I would try this with her. I used a hobby knife with a #11 blade since that is what I had. It was kind of tough to cut through him so I figured I would try it differently.
 
Antibiotics are only useful against bacteria
fungicides are useful against fungal infections

Viruses are basically left to your immune system to combat

Parasites are open to several medications that target them.

A vet will be able to prescribe one

Generally I would take a few of these critters and place them
into a specimen jar with vodka or even 90% rubbing alcohol.
just to show the vet... and make sure you're able to target the correct bug.

then:
I would take the cage and dismantle it.
put the whole thing in the bathtub and soak it in a
good bleach / water/ soap solution for a few hours. (including the screws).
wash it off with clean water.
Do the same with All the common items used with that animal.

wash you hands bigtime.

Then scrub the tub all down with comet
and rinse well to to make sure you don't catch anything.

yeah, it's a pain in the butt but it's also the reason
why I don't touch wild caught animals at the shows.

Tip on taking things apart:
Create an initial opening with a pair of scissors and tweezers to hold the
flaps created and /or to hold things still when using the x-acto blade as needed.
Having such tools around the house have proven valuable time after time.
 
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