MORIO WORMS

[lthrbecks]

I've never had morio worms before. I'm confused as to whether or not they're cleaner crew or feeder insects?

Would they be suitable for my juvenile chameleon?

Many thanks
Mark

 

[AmandaS]

Morio worms, also known as superworms, are a feeder insect. They are not super nutritious, and chameleons get hooked to them like they were crack. It is best to use this feeder as a treat.

 

[lthrbecks]

I was advised not to buy them as my chameleon is too small yet!

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

They're an exception to the "if it'll fit between their eyes" rule of thumb, and they do come in different sizes (and grow over time).

I had the same concern with my beardie at first, so I tried a few from a local pet store. He snarfed em right down—no problm. As of right now, the distance between his eyes is 1", and he still snarfs down two or three 2" supers at a time.

Without taking sides, nutrition partly depends on what they're gut loaded with. Do a search on superworm nutrition for a breakdown, and sources often differ or disagree. That said, I do plan on including them in my cham's diet (when I get him) in moderation.

 

[BenjiTheCham]

I'm planning on breeding supers for my chameleon. I'm not too worried about size becuase I will be getting babies anyways, so I can pick out the ones that are a good size.

 

[jamest0o0]

They're an exception to the "if it'll fit between their eyes" rule of thumb, and they do come in different sizes (and grow over time).

I had the same concern with my beardie at first, so I tried a few from a local pet store. He snarfed em right down—no problm. As of right now, the distance between his eyes is 1", and he still snarfs down two or three 2" supers at a time.

Without taking sides, nutrition partly depends on what they're gut loaded with. Do a search on superworm nutrition for a breakdown, and sources often differ or disagree. That said, I do plan on including them in my cham's diet (when I get him) in moderation.

The rule is based on width, not length. That's why worms work. Chams tend to turn down food too large anyway.

The problem with gutloading supers is that their intestinal tract is a straight line, so sure they can eat whatever, but won't hold much of anything. That said, I think they are a good part of a varied diet.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

The rule is based on width, not length. That's why worms work. Chams tend to turn down food too large anyway.

The problem with gutloading supers is that their intestinal tract is a straight line, so sure they can eat whatever, but won't hold much of anything. That said, I think they are a good part of a varied diet.

I suppose that makes sense. IME, when they're too long, they often get bitten in half, and the half outside the mouth often drops to the floor, never to be touched again. Every lizard is different.

Again, without taking sides, there seems to be a lot of discussion & more on gut loading supers, including here.

 

[lthrbecks]

They're an exception to the "if it'll fit between their eyes" rule of thumb, and they do come in different sizes (and grow over time).

I had the same concern with my beardie at first, so I tried a few from a local pet store. He snarfed em right down—no problm. As of right now, the distance between his eyes is 1", and he still snarfs down two or three 2" supers at a time.

Thanks for your message much appreciated

 

[jacksonchamnew]

I got my cham today to tweezer feed on one of these. They like them. Male veiled.

 

[lthrbecks]

Lucky you! I'm having great difficulty getting my boy to eat. He'll eat around 2 hoppers per day. I've tried him on wax and silkworms, snails, banana and red runner roaches. All to no avail! He loved crickets but i didnt ? the incessant night time chirping drove me insane. I've reluctantly reordered them again! It pains me to say this!

 

[jacksonchamnew]

I got some Calciworms and put them in dish and he came down and ate these. I was surprised. They barely move and are small.

 

[BenjiTheCham]

I got some Calciworms and put them in dish and he came down and ate these. I was surprised. They barely move and are small.

I’m getting some as well. I wish I had read the size before ordering lol. They are “small” and when I looked at the picture it shows them compared to a penny and they are half the size. Hope this is okay for my cham. I’m getting him tomorrow and they are coming Friday so I have to find something to feed in the meantime