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Barbv

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Hello,
So glad I stumble across the forum! 10 years ago I purchased a pair of Veileds for my 6 yo son, not really knowing what I was getting into.
As a nurse, I have the caretaker gene and our Colorado sun and solar home seemed the perfect location for chameleons. I scoured the bookstore and internet, read everything I could get my hands on. We made some mistakes in the process, but came to adore our colorful friends, hatched 2 clutches of eggs and educated all our frineds and visitors on Chameleons. Godzilla passed away several years ago at the age of 9yo, and we have been chameleon free for about 4 years.
After I started some house renovation, decided it was time again!
Our chameleons had always live int he open in ficus trees, no cages, with waterfalls and theri food fed out of a cup. I decided to go one step further and built an entire indoor terrarium.
The daytime temps are 85 and nighttime 65. They are misted twice daily, as it is dry here, get calcium and vits supplements 3 times a week, a UVB light, and can hunt freely within their garden to eat when they want.
I cut the back legs off the crickets so they can crawl but not hop out, and throw random wax worm into the terraium. I have seen some different behavior than I ever noted before now that their trees are not in pots but actuall in the ground. I always throught they were only tree dwellers, but I see the 4 month old male frequently coming down to the ground and hunting on land for food. He must feel " safe" and can catch those pesky jumpers on foot faster than chnaging branches. Unfortunately, the female of the pair suffered from MBD, despute my best efforts to keep her on supplements, UVB, gut load crickets, etc. She ate more, was a more agressive hunter, so suspect she grew much faster than the male and could not keep up with her bone growth. My son, Nick, and I feel terrible, as we feel we are educated chameleon owner, but things happen. She may have come to us already in deficit and could not catch up.
I have read the threads on not cohabitating males and females, but in our open enviroment where there is plenty of room to roam and seperate, ours have always done well. The female, Jade, had her own tree and her own" side of the garden", so early breeding did not take place. She kept him away until she was 2 1/2. I am guessing that my mimicing a natural enviroment as much as possible in captivity has allowed them to maintain somewhat natural cycles.
The fountain and lights are on a timer, am looking to add a timed misting system as well. In the Summer or warm days, they go outside to a large screened cage to absorb sun.
In the Spring we have Miller moths that take over the fields and get into the house. In the past, I have put an adult chameleon on a lonf wooden dowel, walked around the house, and let them " clean house." The LOVE the moths, and I get a clean house. I understand the concern with feeding wild insects, pesticide etc. but with trial and error, have found the chameleons trive on the natural insects and large locusts ( when they are big enought to eat them.)
I would love to replace our little female, am not a pet store fan, if anyone has an appropriate aged girl.
So glad to be here and check out my photos. I will add more later.
Barb
 
Hi, and welcome! I looked at your photos; very nice! I can warn you the word "waterfall" will alarm some people (you can search some of the posts for problems people have had with them, or JoJackson's good thread on common forum responses for reasons), but you clearly have a solid background in chams and know what you're doing. I haven't been delegging my crickets, and they await their fate in a cup in my free range, but we lose a few here and there transferring them to the feeding cup to begin with, and have just come to accept crickets wandering about (i.e. we're slobs). Welcome back to chameleons!
 
Such a helpfull site, the best ive come accross.....ever.....on the whole internet....:)
 
Welcome this is a great site. I surfed around here for months before I got my chams and became a member. Lots of info here and now I must admit I have become an addict I love chams and want more.:D
 
Hello,
Thanks for the input, I do agree. Stryker is misted 2-3 times daily. I am trying to find away to build a misting system that I can put on a timer, without the equipment looking to obvious and interfering with the beauty of the terrarium. I have never seen him actually drink from the small pond/waterfall. Since our house is warm and solar, after 8 hours the water has all evaporated into the air and the pump shuts off. I wipe down the liner everynight, no harsh chemicals, let it air dry over night before adding new water in the morning. I remove the pump tubing and clean it every few days. Since it is failry small, easy to do, and has become routine. I did not anticipate the garden would attract tiny " fruit flus_ or whatever they are, Buy Stryker seems to be having a great time hunting them down! They llook to small to me to bother with the effort, but guess it keeps him from getting bored. He hunts actively on the ground for these flys. I have never had a chameleon that was so comfortable on the ground, but previously they lived in Ficus trees in large pots, without any " ground". Have you seen this behavior?
I am not worried about it, just fascitated that it seems so out of character .
Barb
 
Hi and welcome Barb! Be careful this forum is ADdicTiNg! I wanna see some pics of your cham garden room thing. that seems sweet!
 
Hello, very nice to meet you. Your garden sounds very neat and I too have a cham that likes to walk on the ground to hunt at times. I think he is just a ferocious hunter. You seem to have a great handle on your chams. After all, yours lived to 9yrs.of age. As for the pond/waterfall, people on this forum consider them bacteria collectors. However, you seem to take all the necessary actions to keeping it sterile. I too found this forum maybe 8 months ago and met some great, knowledgeable friends. I have had chams. Way before I ever found this forum. Now that I found the cham.forum I am here all the time. Another great place to finds chams for sale is on kingsnake.com. Again very nice to meet you.
 
Welcome to the forum. I just found this forum a couple months ago and it is the best resource for chameleon care there is. I learn several things every time I go on it.
 
ive learned ALOT here as well. you should get a mist king!!! thats what i plan on getting once my cham moves to his adult cage. mist king is one of the site sponors. im trying to brain storm on how i want to do open enclosure without getting my carpet soaked!
 
hi!!! this forum is awesome huh?!?! haha. i think its cool how u have the all natural set up and what not. i wanted to get a tree or something for my vieled to crawl on when outside the cage. and types u recommend? also how are they with handling and stuff since there pretty much in there natural environment? have a great day!
 
Hi Barb, happy to have you join us. You might want to check the chamemeons for sale on this forum. Just go to the classifeds at the top.
I am with the others in that I woould love to see pictures of your enclosure. How big is it? I enjoy you creative types. All my chams are in regular screen cages.:( My babies should have what you have and if you can do it in Colo then Maybe I could do it in Montana, problem it I have 12 chams that would need to go in it. My quads could not have the temps the veiled & panthers have.

If you can't find a female veiled adult I would think about you having one of mine as I keep saying I need to cut down on veileds and panthers as I need more quads and others like then(not sure which ones yet:D )

Well angin welcome and post lots of pictures, we love pictures on this forum:)
 
Hi Rocky,
my work computer refuses to let me copy and paste anything. Take a look at my member gallery under barbV for a few photos of the terrarium.
It was fun to make and my Veiled loves it!
Barb
 
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