Hi all,
Something isn't right with my little Pablo and I'm now getting very worried. He is a rescue who had a really bad first owner, I took him on about 8 months ago and he's been doing great until recently.... I really want to give this guy the best life he deserves so any help would be SO appreciated.
Background: male, 2.5 years with first owner who fed him only mealworms, no supplements and incorrect lighting, tiny glass enclosure so he has previous burn marks and rubbing on his nose, edema (My past post details this)
Problem: lethargy / constipation / dehydration
- He has been very lethargic for 2 weeks, staying on his sleep branch with curled tail until lunchtime when he finally moves to basking branch. He is always awake but takes hours to move to bask which isn't normal.
- He hasn't pooped in 2.5 weeks but still has an appetite, just slightly reduced. During this period he has eaten dubias, BSFL, waxworms, morioworms
- His last poop had white urates with a bit of orange, solid fecal but an unusual granular/dry bit in it
Significant changes at time this started: I switched from a monsoon to a mist king and removed his dripper. The weather has also become very cold.
I am concerned that he has become dehydrated without the dripper, although the mist king gives him chance to drink 3 times a day and sprays onto the exact same plant the dripper dripped onto so it should be familiar to him.
Is it possible for Cham's to not like drinking from misters? When it sprays it sometimes triggers a sleep response, he will curl up his tail and move to his sleep branch. He is not a shy drinker but I haven't seen him drink with the mister. I have offered him pipette water which in the past he has accepted but he's only drank from it once during this period, despite having offered it every other day so maybe dehydration isn't the issue?
His eyes are a little more wrinkly/shallow but they are not sunken. His colours are a bit more dull by his standards and he shows more black colours under basking than he did in summer.
Below is my husbandry form and photos,
If anyone has time to help I would really appreciate it! I will do what it takes to give this guy a good home.
Katy
Husbandry Form
Your Chameleon - Male, Nosey Be panther chameleon, a rescue approx 3 years
Handling - he was previously handled a lot and free roamed the previous owners house. Most days he will come out of his enclosure in the afternoons, he then explores hanging plants, branches & ropes.
Feeding - Staple: dubias, silkworms Secondary: BSFL, waxworms, morioworms (although the UK silkworm breeders were out of stock Dec/Jan)
Feeding 3 x per week and offering 3 feeders a time, has the odd treat bug in between when interacting with me
Gut loading - Dubias: Repashy bug burger / Silkworms: mulberry leaf / worms: Arcadia Insect Fuel
Fresh: sweet potatoes, watercress, dandelion greens, bell pepper, zucchini, carrots, green beans, oranges.
Supplements - Daily: Repashy SuperCal no d3, alternate friday's: Repashy Calcium plus LoD
Watering - Mistking: 1 minute in the morning at 7:50am (10 min before lights on) / 1 minute at 1pm / 2 minutes at 7:30pm (30 min before lights off)
Feacal Description - creamy white/ light orange urate along with solid brown poop, sometimes mucus coating
Cage Type - customised reptibreeze, 46x46x92, vinyl & mesh mix for chimney effect. No substrate, water drains through holes drilled into the base, umbrella plant on top to weigh it down (this cage came with him, I know it needs to go up a size)
Lighting -
UVB: Arcadia ProT5 22" with Arcadia Forest 6% bulb.
Basking: 75 watt halogen bulb
Basking branch 7 inches below top of screen, UVB light is raised 10 inches from branch, basking bulb at angle for overlap
Light Schedule - 8am - 8pm
Temperatures -
26-29C / 79-84 F basking temp
14-22C / 57-71F ambient
Humidity -
58-75% daytime (the 75 spike is when the mister goes on then it lowers to average 65)
65-85% nighttime
Plants - all live plants: pothos, zebra fern, dischidia, button fern, monstera, pepperomia, sansivera, umbrella tree
Placement - low traffic bedroom, away from windows, 1.2 metre off the floor
Something isn't right with my little Pablo and I'm now getting very worried. He is a rescue who had a really bad first owner, I took him on about 8 months ago and he's been doing great until recently.... I really want to give this guy the best life he deserves so any help would be SO appreciated.
Background: male, 2.5 years with first owner who fed him only mealworms, no supplements and incorrect lighting, tiny glass enclosure so he has previous burn marks and rubbing on his nose, edema (My past post details this)
Problem: lethargy / constipation / dehydration
- He has been very lethargic for 2 weeks, staying on his sleep branch with curled tail until lunchtime when he finally moves to basking branch. He is always awake but takes hours to move to bask which isn't normal.
- He hasn't pooped in 2.5 weeks but still has an appetite, just slightly reduced. During this period he has eaten dubias, BSFL, waxworms, morioworms
- His last poop had white urates with a bit of orange, solid fecal but an unusual granular/dry bit in it
Significant changes at time this started: I switched from a monsoon to a mist king and removed his dripper. The weather has also become very cold.
I am concerned that he has become dehydrated without the dripper, although the mist king gives him chance to drink 3 times a day and sprays onto the exact same plant the dripper dripped onto so it should be familiar to him.
Is it possible for Cham's to not like drinking from misters? When it sprays it sometimes triggers a sleep response, he will curl up his tail and move to his sleep branch. He is not a shy drinker but I haven't seen him drink with the mister. I have offered him pipette water which in the past he has accepted but he's only drank from it once during this period, despite having offered it every other day so maybe dehydration isn't the issue?
His eyes are a little more wrinkly/shallow but they are not sunken. His colours are a bit more dull by his standards and he shows more black colours under basking than he did in summer.
Below is my husbandry form and photos,
If anyone has time to help I would really appreciate it! I will do what it takes to give this guy a good home.
Katy
Husbandry Form
Your Chameleon - Male, Nosey Be panther chameleon, a rescue approx 3 years
Handling - he was previously handled a lot and free roamed the previous owners house. Most days he will come out of his enclosure in the afternoons, he then explores hanging plants, branches & ropes.
Feeding - Staple: dubias, silkworms Secondary: BSFL, waxworms, morioworms (although the UK silkworm breeders were out of stock Dec/Jan)
Feeding 3 x per week and offering 3 feeders a time, has the odd treat bug in between when interacting with me
Gut loading - Dubias: Repashy bug burger / Silkworms: mulberry leaf / worms: Arcadia Insect Fuel
Fresh: sweet potatoes, watercress, dandelion greens, bell pepper, zucchini, carrots, green beans, oranges.
Supplements - Daily: Repashy SuperCal no d3, alternate friday's: Repashy Calcium plus LoD
Watering - Mistking: 1 minute in the morning at 7:50am (10 min before lights on) / 1 minute at 1pm / 2 minutes at 7:30pm (30 min before lights off)
Feacal Description - creamy white/ light orange urate along with solid brown poop, sometimes mucus coating
Cage Type - customised reptibreeze, 46x46x92, vinyl & mesh mix for chimney effect. No substrate, water drains through holes drilled into the base, umbrella plant on top to weigh it down (this cage came with him, I know it needs to go up a size)
Lighting -
UVB: Arcadia ProT5 22" with Arcadia Forest 6% bulb.
Basking: 75 watt halogen bulb
Basking branch 7 inches below top of screen, UVB light is raised 10 inches from branch, basking bulb at angle for overlap
Light Schedule - 8am - 8pm
Temperatures -
26-29C / 79-84 F basking temp
14-22C / 57-71F ambient
Humidity -
58-75% daytime (the 75 spike is when the mister goes on then it lowers to average 65)
65-85% nighttime
Plants - all live plants: pothos, zebra fern, dischidia, button fern, monstera, pepperomia, sansivera, umbrella tree
Placement - low traffic bedroom, away from windows, 1.2 metre off the floor
I striped the bark off the sticks before I put them in so they don't peel etc. There's no soil or floor substrate, just the plastic cage base. The plants don't drop leaves and he never explores inside the pots, just stays on the branches. Everything is fixed by glue gun, no string etc. Is there anything else that can cause impaction?
