Otto: back from the vet

Here's a report for anyone interested:

The vet was great, Dr. Maas in Bothell, WA. He used to breed veileds and at one time kept 150 reptiles in his home. Super nice guy, really informative with really great information.

He doesn't really believe in using the term Metabolic Bone Disease. He says it's like saying your cham has cancer. The question is what kind of cancer? And what specifically caused it?

There are three ways to screen for calcium in the body. One is to check for unbound calcium which gives a percentage of the calcium in the body, but more importantly shows how much is available to the animal. The second type of test shows the full amount of calcium in the body. The third test is a simple x-ray to actually check the density of the bones.

On inspection, the Dr. said Otto was very healthy, checking things like the jaw and the casque, the grip, inside the mouth, he checked breathing, everything. He held him for about 20 minutes while he inspected and explained. He said my husbandry couldn't be better. He said he'd be proud to have Otto as one of his collection.

He said the bent casque could be from a number of things, but it wasn't from lack of density. Possible mild trauma, but it wasn't uncommon. He said the spine was straight and I was just seeing the muscles that cause his spine spikes to pull this way and that.

He emphasized the importance of keeping your cham on healthy light/day schedule. He thought keeping the cham in the closest was perfect to help control lighting at night, and during the mornings or evenings when the keepers hours don't match the animals.

And finally he recommended a once a year feces test to check for parasites.

Other tidbits of info that I thought contradicted a few things I've heard - you cannot over suppliment calcium. Has anyone heard differently?

So that's it! Otto went on his first field trip, really behaved himself on the vet's desk. Even sat still long enough to be weighed in at 137 grams! Never lunged at the vet once, but gave me hell when I got him home.

Thanks to everyone on this board that provide a wealth of info and support raising these fun little creatures.

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That is really good news. I'm glad to hear that, looks like he'll be okay! Better to be safe than sorry when it comes to chameleons.
 
Congratulations on the great news concerning Otto! You know, even though there's expense involved, it just feels good to take one to the vet and get confirmation of their health and well being. Now you know for certain that you're doing a good job. He is truly a beautiful creature and a fine pet. Thank you for letting us all know how it went.

I'm also glad to know there is a vet in the Puget Sound area with THAT level of experience.

No, I've heard of a concern with oversupplementing vitamins, but not the minerals. Guido's phosphorus/Calcium levels were off. Calcium too high in relation to the phosphorus. But the doctor didn't have us reduce the calcium, he had us raise the phosphorus. It just meant adjusting his feeder diet.
 
Thanks all! True mintglow, better safe than sorry.

Yeah gesang, Dr. Maas said he's going to be at the reptile show this month, he's a big fan of the bean farm. And as far as cost it was really pretty reasonible - $45.70 for the whole hour. Highly recommended vet.
 
nice cham you got there reminds me of my fella hes not quite fullly grown but hes almost got the same colours your dude just has more blue to him , but hes a BEAUT for sure keep up the great work
 
46 bucks! That is an amazing deal. I pay almost 70 dollars just to walk in the door because they are exotic. But no matter the cost it is important to have a vet that you trust and has knowledge. It sound to me like you found a vet thats a keeper! Congrats on your chams clean bill of health, he is very nice looking!
 
Otto and the vet........

Great exam info.........Otto is georgeous. You do have reason to be proud! I want to come over and kidnap him! Tee Hee :) I have a good vet, Dr. Little, in Gorst, Washington. That's about 1/2 hour from where I live. I think your vet is right about not being able to overdose on calcium. It's the vitamin D3 that is the problem. The D3 regulates the calcium absorption. More D3 means more calcium absorption. Calcium by itself will just sit there. It needs the D3 to be absorbed. So...we have to be concerned about not over-supplementing the D3. They get natural D3 from lighting and sunlight so we have to consider this factor too. Great picture of Otto...Thanks :)
 
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