Your Chameleon - Panther - male - unknown less that 1 year (tip of snout to base of tail approx 15cm) - 3 weeks in my care
Handling - once before it became weak then once/ twice a day to give water food last 4 days
Feeding - non feeder offered locust / crickets / waxies (2 in bowl to encorage eating) - (gut loading - bran flakes green leaves / carrot / potato for moisture)
Supplements - komodo chamelon dusting powder
Watering - Bottle misting 3 -4 times daily - complete soaking of viv and plants to extent of dripping - yes he drank from day one licking wall
Fecal Description - Not eaten no droppings
History - was in smallish tank in shop with two females, wife told me recently that he was low down in tank while the females where high.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - vivexotic 1ft, 11" x 1ft, 7" x 3ft, 0" glass doors - door vents unblocked - three vents at back, 30cm square wire mesh hole top left for external heat lamp
Lighting - arcadia 5.0% forest lamp 15w 18" (new) Placed inside viv above door - 100w Sun glo daylight spot lamp with dome holder approx 5" above viv - timer 08.30 - 20.00
Temperature - Ambient day 68 - 75 - basking 6" below viv roof (12" approx from heat source) 95 ambient night 70 (mat and stat at night on deck)
Humidity - 80-90% post mist - can drop 50% - 70% - 70% night - internal digital therm and hydro - ifrared gun
Plants - Silk plants only
Placement - Located in living room - no fans, vents close by no draught - top of viv is approx 7 foot (higher than my head height at 6 foot)
Location - Wales
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I purchased a two panthers male and female 3 weeks ago, both are in identical sets ups temp and viv wise, female ate and is eating well from 2nd day (not seen her drink) she is pooing fine no smell etc good constancy. good prominent eyes. active etc
However the male would not eat from day one, he drank for me as soon as I sprayed viv, and did on most occasions not sure how much as he just seemed to move his head against the wet viv wall. He spent a fair bit of time under lamp, but then he started to sit low down or on the deck, I double checked my temps with infra red they were acceptable, as he seemed to be drinking, I presumed he was just settling in with regard to food.
He started spending less time high up and more on the deck, Then in the last 2 days he took a quick decline, slept all day, started looking dehydrated (sunken eyes) his grip was good, woke up when disturbed but moved slow.
I encouraged him to eat waxies by placing them in his mouth, he eventually swallowed but the came out undigested even tho I placed him under heat, was very smelly. as they came out within 24 hours I don't think impaction is to blame.
He changed light colours at night and slept straight and tail hanging with slight coil at tip (he used to go full spectrum of red etc when asleep hunched /tail coiled etc and would go dark when I held him to feed, but did not really become aggressive with throat puffs or mouth open. I then started to pipette drops of water onto his snout and and tongue to encourage him to drink, which he did to some degree.
Unfortunately he passed late last night. I think he was Ill from purchase what come back do I have against the shop I bought him from, its going to be hard to prove he was ill at purchase, bit I am sure his setup was adequate as the female is doing well.
I have a corn snake I've had from hatching now 9 years old, and leo's with no issues so am am confident my husbandry is ok.
I'm going to have a faecal float from the female done at my vets (if they do it) as a precaution as they used to be housed together
He went downhill very fast from fri night saturday morning , and my local vets is half day saturday and closed sunday, I don't have a specialised vet close by either incase anyone asks why I never went to vets.
Handling - once before it became weak then once/ twice a day to give water food last 4 days
Feeding - non feeder offered locust / crickets / waxies (2 in bowl to encorage eating) - (gut loading - bran flakes green leaves / carrot / potato for moisture)
Supplements - komodo chamelon dusting powder
Watering - Bottle misting 3 -4 times daily - complete soaking of viv and plants to extent of dripping - yes he drank from day one licking wall
Fecal Description - Not eaten no droppings
History - was in smallish tank in shop with two females, wife told me recently that he was low down in tank while the females where high.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - vivexotic 1ft, 11" x 1ft, 7" x 3ft, 0" glass doors - door vents unblocked - three vents at back, 30cm square wire mesh hole top left for external heat lamp
Lighting - arcadia 5.0% forest lamp 15w 18" (new) Placed inside viv above door - 100w Sun glo daylight spot lamp with dome holder approx 5" above viv - timer 08.30 - 20.00
Temperature - Ambient day 68 - 75 - basking 6" below viv roof (12" approx from heat source) 95 ambient night 70 (mat and stat at night on deck)
Humidity - 80-90% post mist - can drop 50% - 70% - 70% night - internal digital therm and hydro - ifrared gun
Plants - Silk plants only
Placement - Located in living room - no fans, vents close by no draught - top of viv is approx 7 foot (higher than my head height at 6 foot)
Location - Wales
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I purchased a two panthers male and female 3 weeks ago, both are in identical sets ups temp and viv wise, female ate and is eating well from 2nd day (not seen her drink) she is pooing fine no smell etc good constancy. good prominent eyes. active etc
However the male would not eat from day one, he drank for me as soon as I sprayed viv, and did on most occasions not sure how much as he just seemed to move his head against the wet viv wall. He spent a fair bit of time under lamp, but then he started to sit low down or on the deck, I double checked my temps with infra red they were acceptable, as he seemed to be drinking, I presumed he was just settling in with regard to food.
He started spending less time high up and more on the deck, Then in the last 2 days he took a quick decline, slept all day, started looking dehydrated (sunken eyes) his grip was good, woke up when disturbed but moved slow.
I encouraged him to eat waxies by placing them in his mouth, he eventually swallowed but the came out undigested even tho I placed him under heat, was very smelly. as they came out within 24 hours I don't think impaction is to blame.
He changed light colours at night and slept straight and tail hanging with slight coil at tip (he used to go full spectrum of red etc when asleep hunched /tail coiled etc and would go dark when I held him to feed, but did not really become aggressive with throat puffs or mouth open. I then started to pipette drops of water onto his snout and and tongue to encourage him to drink, which he did to some degree.
Unfortunately he passed late last night. I think he was Ill from purchase what come back do I have against the shop I bought him from, its going to be hard to prove he was ill at purchase, bit I am sure his setup was adequate as the female is doing well.
I have a corn snake I've had from hatching now 9 years old, and leo's with no issues so am am confident my husbandry is ok.
I'm going to have a faecal float from the female done at my vets (if they do it) as a precaution as they used to be housed together
He went downhill very fast from fri night saturday morning , and my local vets is half day saturday and closed sunday, I don't have a specialised vet close by either incase anyone asks why I never went to vets.
. I'm no expert, but it sounds like you started out with a sick cham and despite your enclosure being much better than the conditions he was kept in before, it might've been too late... He might've been stressed by being in there with two females, especially if they were aggressive towards him.
