I like monitoring my chams food intake. So when i bought the large phoenix worms and saw these little not evena n inch worm my chams wouldnt take it no matter what technique i used. My cham is about 7 in. and the other is maybe 8-9 in. They are 2 seperated jacksons. I use the wall og the cage to have the chams notics the little worm but it kept falling ( no legs ). Also are black phoenix worms dead or cacooning ? Lastly where can i get hornworms to order online where the seller is located in florida.