Planning For My First Ever Cham :)

OEDragon

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I may me a college student with a low budget, but just about all of my spending money goes into my critters, and it's time to bring a new critter into the family :) Herps and inverts have always been my favorites, but a chameleon is an all new critter to me. I've never had one, but I'm hoping to change that in the near future.

I plan to treat myself to a cham for my birthday next January, and that means spending the next several months collecting all the equipment I'm going to need for it. However, being new to chams, I want to make sure the equipment I'm planning to get is everything I will need and the best I can get for the price. So any advice, concerns, opinions, ideas, anything will be greatly appreciated by both me and my future cham :)

Caging-- I'm planning on getting a young male panther chameleon, probably between 4-6 months old, from Screameleons. I was originally planning to get this as a cage --> Cage but for $5 more you can upgrade the cage size to 16.5"x16.5"x30". As you can imagine being a college student, I'm a bit tight with the money I have. I like the smaller cage size for a very young cham but I know I could probably get a couple extra months out of the bigger cage for $5 more. So first question, is a 16.5"x16.5"x30" cage too large for a young panther cham? And how long do you think I could use it before I have to upgrade to a full-size 2'x2'x4' cage?

Lighting/Heating-- When I was looking at buying everything separately, I was planning to buy a small terrarium hood and a ReptiSun Compact 5.0 UVB bulb on amazon for like $45. But then I found that little care package linked above on lllreptile and was wondering if the 20" hood/Repti-Glo 5.0 bulb it comes with would be ok. Does anyone have any issues with Repti-Glo bulbs or anything? Any opinions?

The only thing I didn't really like about the care package linked above was the heat lamp. They don't even mention the size of the bulb or anything, other than calling it "mini." I might just use this for a separate project, and buy a heat set-up for the cham separately. My other idea was just to buy a Zoo Med Clamp Lamp and 100W Infrared Heat Emitter on Amazon for about $40, seen here Heat Emitter and here Clamp Lamp. Any opinions? Or cheaper ideas/sources?

Watering-- This is where I'm having the hardest time making a decision. As much as I'd love to go with the budget idea of just a spray bottle, I do tend to disappear for a day or two at a time to visit friends and family and whatnot and therefore need a reliable auto-misting system. Since nothing in the <$100 range seems to fit the 'reliable' part based on reviews, that tempts me to just get the smallest MistKing setup for $100+$20 Shipping. My question is, do I need any of the fancy add-ons that MistKing offers? I only plan to use it for this one cham, no other cages. It won't be too much for the small cage right? And likewise it will be enough for a 2'x2'x4' cage?

Diet/Nutrition-- While my main concerns are with the previous three categories, just figured I'd mention other stuff I plan to use/get here. For nutrition, is it alright to use RepCal with D3 and Herptivite for the cham? That's what I use for my other herps but I wanted to know if that's enough or not. Also I plan to start a dubia roach colony within the next month or so. That's a project in itself. When the cham is young, I'm planning on feeding it primarily small crickets but as it gets bigger, introducing dubias into it's diet if my colony is doing alright. When the chameleon reaches full size, would a primarily dubia diet be alright? With crickets, waxworms, and other good stuff still being offered every now and then of course.

All of the main things listed above would put me at about $250, which I don't think is a terrible price (especially since half of that is just the misting system). But if anyone has any advice for me to make that price tag even smaller while still giving my future cham everything it needs to be happy, please, do share :)
 
Welcome to the forums,its good that you are getting the setup first that is the best way to go about it . Panthers are very nice I have several of them .as far as ways of spending less I can't help u there cuz I want the best for all my panthers.
 
Caging: Personally I would recommend a all screen cage. I started off with the 2x2x4 cage right of the bat because of money and my little guy has been just fine. I cup feed him tho and he was the same age. :) Shop around on craigslist and other places to see what you can find, its half the fun!

Lighting/Heating: I would go with the separate light fixture. Most people use reptisun, not reptigo, Im not sure why but I know there IS a reason.

Watering: I just have one chameleon and I bought the 99$ mistking, it works really well. But make sure to buy it directly from marty and get a good timer, for it. And no i didn't need to get anything else.

Supplements: I would purchase rep ashy all in one, SO much easier!

Food: Roaches are amazing! They don't smell and they don't jump, little crickets are VERY jumpy. Personally I think starting off with roaches is fine but they can get pricey if you don't shop around for good deals.

This is a link to the cage set up I bought, 275(thats with shipping inc.)
http://www.chameleonsnorthwest.com/catalog.htm?Iit=24&Ict=11

Conclusion, Just shop around to find really good deals :D:D
Best of luck and If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask:)
 
Making things cheaper................. hmm just buy smart. Like stock up on things and stuff like that. You can also make things to save money, like the dripper and collecting branches. But overall I say do it right, its gonna hurt but its worth it. Im still in grade school and I spent over 800$ (with cham) when I should be saving for car and other things, but Ive started to save up again and I in no way regret it :p
 
Can tell you one thing they are not cheap in any way lol u start buying and buying for this guys we have well spend over a 1000 pounds on zuggie but u just love the satisfaction of all the hard work you put in its well worth it :) and you need to get a cage that u can put drainage in as well or you will end up flooding the place lol i have a pictures of zuggies cage when he was small so u have a ruff idea about things but i would say a mistking in a little cage would be tricky you would have to make sure that u sealed it off well so no water can get out beside down your drainage we did never have drainage in are small one so it flooded all the time but u live a learn lol heres the picture anyways
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Dont put a tray under the plants thou as it collects water and will make your cham become ill. And dont worry we took it out as soon as someone told us thank god lol :)

O and welcome to the forum keep us updated and u can learn a lot from here believe me everyone is just great for every bit of info u could ever need to no :)
 
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Check your local Craigslist for deals. There is all type of stuff you can find. Just search Reptiles,ect. Also read read read read.
 
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