Purple Bar ambanja or just a blue bar with red dot?

dodolah

dodolah

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I am wondering is such thing exist?
most of the time, when people say they have one, it is basically just a dark blue bar that occasionally turn purple when they fired up due to some red dot coloration underneath the belly area.

Never seen one that actually looked purple when they relax (not for sale anyway)..
hmmmmm:confused:

Anybody has one? can you upload the pics?
Thanks


O also has anybody ever try going to this forum using this address:
http://gabbly.com/www.chameleonforums.com

It enable a live chat.. while looking at the forum... kinda cool.. :D
sorry i am a bit ghetto about this kinda thing.. you guys probably already know.
 
dodolah said:
I am wondering is such thing exist?
most of the time, when people say they have one, it is basically just a dark blue bar that occasionally turn purple when they fired up due to some red dot coloration underneath the belly area.

Never seen one that actually looked purple when they relax (not for sale anyway)..
hmmmmm:confused:

Anybody has one? can you upload the pics?
Thanks
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I have one. Here's a link to how I got him that has pictures: http://www.chameleonplantation.com/blog/?p=47
All of the pictures are the same animal taken at different times or with different cameras. Mine does just the opposite than you're saying. In his relaxed state, he has purples stripes. Even the back stripes are purple. But if I stick a camera in his cage, or take him out, he stresses and turns a dark blue. The cage lighting doesn't help. I'm working on better pictures, but the top one is the best I have because it was the first one I took with a "better" camera when I walked up to his cage. What makes it a PITA is that he's most relaxed when he's deep in his tree, so I can't take photos of him very well. Sooner or later, I'll get a good photo of him.

Steve
 
joefarah said:
Very nice!
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Thanks. Here's a picture of another one we had in the past:

http://www.chameleonplantation.com/blog/?p=21

The picture is crummy, but he was purple too. They are out there, but hard to find these days. I looked a year before I found mine. There are some cool sites on-line that show some when you google the right terms, but those are old pictures too. I was disappointed to find that out when I tried contacting all those folks.

The good news is that I hope to eventually create a line of them. But...it may take a couple years... :)

Steve
 
steve, your "purple" bar ambanja is amazing!!...
but, it is basically what i mean...
It is actually a blue and red scales mixing together creating an illusion of purple.

Is there really an ambanja that actually has purple scales coloration?
Maybe not, huh?
 
dodolah said:
steve, your "purple" bar ambanja is amazing!!...
but, it is basically what i mean...
It is actually a blue and red scales mixing together creating an illusion of purple.
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It's actually blue and red scales mixing together creating purple.
Blue and red is pretty much the recipe for purple:)

-Brad
 
yeah.. so, there is nothing that actually have the purple scale (without the optical mixing)?:)
 
dodolah said:
steve, your "purple" bar ambanja is amazing!!...
but, it is basically what i mean...
It is actually a blue and red scales mixing together creating an illusion of purple.

Is there really an ambanja that actually has purple scales coloration?
Maybe not, huh?
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Hmmm...my computer screen works the same way. I guess technically, there are no purple colors on the computer either...just alternating red and blue. :)

His stripes can be almost all blue. They can also be almost all a solid dark grape jelly color. Most times its in between. When he goes from one to the other, I don't know if he's "instantaneously" changing some scales from a dark blue to a grape jelly color in an alternating fashion, or whether the scales are gradually changing themselves. It doesn't make sense that they'd instantly just change colors without some kind of transition. I mean, hey, if you can look at his scales under a microscope, then I can analyze each microsecond, right? This is a real though-provoker because...perhaps...not all chameleons change colors the same way, even if they go from simliar emotional state to similar emotional state. Do they all go from the outside in? Inside out? Alternating? Geometric progression like the spreading of a virus? I just know that some of the time from the front of his cage his stripes are purple and sometimes they are a grape jelly color unless he's upset, and if I try to get close enough to see, then he freaks out and they turn all blue and he runs into the bushes. But FWIW, when I blow up his "most purple" photo, some of the individual scales do look purple to me, but definitely not all of them.

Steve
 
WOW you guys are brutal! :eek: :D

I think all he's asking is if the "purple" bars are made up of purple scales or a mix of red and blue scales that blend to make the BARS purple......from the pics it looks like the bars are purple because of a mix of red and blue scales.

Very gorgeous cham either way. :)

Kevin
 
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dodolah said:
yeah.. so, there is nothing that actually have the purple scale (without the optical mixing)?:)
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The only true purple I've seen out of tons of pictures was on the face of a nosy be. I don't understand why they call them "purple bars". They don't look very purple. Looks like an incomplete dominance, though, which is super cool.
 
Brad Ramsey said:
I think stevereecy was joking with us.
Again, red and blue make purple:rolleyes:

-Brad
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Definitely joking. My dry sense of humor gets me in trouble some times. Dodolah's point is valid, there is definitely some optical pixelation going on there. I think thats the dominant method for purple. But I think if you look close at his scales on the picture some are individually purple. It probably helps that I have the same picture blown up as my screen saver at work. Maybe I can blow one way up and put up a link or something.

Of course now my co-workers think I'm a little crazy...
 
Ok, here we go

Ok, I managed to go back to the source photo and didn't reduce it as much. Why do digital cameras take such huge photos anyway?

If you go to this link: http://www.chameleonplantation.com/blog/?p=47

then scroll to the bottom picture on the page, there is a larger version of the same photo. Its comparable to my screen saver.

I think I see some optical mixing and some scales that are purple. But from looking at the "who's behind the camera" thread, I've figured out that my eyes are older than ya'lls.

Oh, and just because I'm kind of a "purple nut" in my pursuit of Ambanja beauty, here's another link: http://www.chameleonplantation.com/blog/?attachment_id=66 Its a female, and they are so often unfairly characterized as "plain". She's got some subtle purple in her.

Steve
 
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Tonedo, nice specimen.


Steve, your site isn't working for me, btw.

Personally, I've never seen any Ambanja that warrents being called "purple barred". Plenty of them with really gorgeous deep blues, but far from purple in almost any form. But demand is for Purple oddly enough, so that is how people are marketing them.
 
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