Recommend some planter pots for enclosure

[ccclcl]

Preface: I know nothing about plants or growing them in pots. I have been doing my research and taking my time to execute a "textbook" forest edge a la chamaleonacademy.com for my first chameleon enclosure. I'm trying to sort out pots to use for the double pot method.

On the website it looks like he uses 0.5 gallon possibly for every plant, but it's hard to sort out dimensions the way these things are commonly sold and I have some questions as well. Also I thought it might be cool to use square pots to have a more secure attachment to the rails or branches.

Here's some options I'm looking at:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HV96YF1/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3NS2OYM30ZDP&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HVDXCCN/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A2IU5AHCG4DBD4&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093GSF2DK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A31QJLUCUTE3V&psc=1

Those range from 3.85 to 5.5 to 7 square width. So I find myself debating on size needed to grow the plants big enough but also not taking up too much space on the 12" rails, or volumetric enclosure space for the cham. As for specific plants I already found a large pothos in a standard hanging basket I was planning to repot to one of these pots and go on one side. I'm looking for one additional from the "trailing plant" category and one from the "accent plant" category to both go on the other wall and be replanted in these pots. The fourth plant I was planning on a large umbrella plant to go on the bottom and grow up since the floor of my enclosure can support it.

Final question is will this choice on pot size inhibit my pothos' ability to grow all over? And if I get smaller plants for the two wall plants I still need and put them in these will they grow into the larger pots?

Thoughts and recommendations are appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Karmachameleontrajan]

I have a large umbrella plant like you said you have. I raised it up on a stand, and it provides alot of coverage. Depending on how big your plant is you may not need too many other plants. I just have a raindrop and a pothos other than the umbrella. Maybe look to see if the raindrop would be good for you its a good plant.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

Preface: I know nothing about plants or growing them in pots. I have been doing my research and taking my time to execute a "textbook" forest edge a la chamaleonacademy.com for my first chameleon enclosure. I'm trying to sort out pots to use for the double pot method.

On the website it looks like he uses 0.5 gallon possibly for every plant, but it's hard to sort out dimensions the way these things are commonly sold and I have some questions as well. Also I thought it might be cool to use square pots to have a more secure attachment to the rails or branches.

Here's some options I'm looking at:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HV96YF1/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3NS2OYM30ZDP&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HVDXCCN/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A2IU5AHCG4DBD4&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093GSF2DK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A31QJLUCUTE3V&psc=1

Those range from 3.85 to 5.5 to 7 square width. So I find myself debating on size needed to grow the plants big enough but also not taking up too much space on the 12" rails, or volumetric enclosure space for the cham. As for specific plants I already found a large pothos in a standard hanging basket I was planning to repot to one of these pots and go on one side. I'm looking for one additional from the "trailing plant" category and one from the "accent plant" category to both go on the other wall and be replanted in these pots. The fourth plant I was planning on a large umbrella plant to go on the bottom and grow up since the floor of my enclosure can support it.

Final question is will this choice on pot size inhibit my pothos' ability to grow all over? And if I get smaller plants for the two wall plants I still need and put them in these will they grow into the larger pots?

Thoughts and recommendations are appreciated. Thanks!

I'm thinking you may be over-thinking the pots a bit. All plants are likely to outgrow their pots (some more than others) eventually.

https://chameleonacademy.com/plants/ is excellent, but you'll likely have to go out to google to look up care requirements (soil, feeding, water, light, etc.) for each plant, which should also include appropriate pot sizes. There should also be information (on some sites) on how to determine when to transplant into a bigger pot. Speaking of bigger pots, make sure you can up-size the outside pot of a double-pot; some folks cast them into foam, but then they can't move up in pot size without doing major surgery on the enclosure.

For double-potting, I think plastic pots will work out best, but be sure they either have enough drainage holes in the bottom, or that you can drill some.

 

[ccclcl]

I'm thinking you may be over-thinking the pots a bit. All plants are likely to outgrow their pots (some more than others) eventually.

https://chameleonacademy.com/plants/ is excellent, but you'll likely have to go out to google to look up care requirements (soil, feeding, water, light, etc.) for each plant, which should also include appropriate pot sizes. There should also be information (on some sites) on how to determine when to transplant into a bigger pot. Speaking of bigger pots, make sure you can up-size the outside pot of a double-pot; some folks cast them into foam, but then they can't move up in pot size without doing major surgery on the enclosure.

For double-potting, I think plastic pots will work out best, but be sure they either have enough drainage holes in the bottom, or that you can drill some.

If the threshold is things that matter to providing the best possible environment for a cham, then correct I'm overthinking. If the threshold is providing a path for beginners to enter the hoby to provide the best possible life for the cham they will buy anyway...

Then look I'm just not the kind of person that can accept "you just get some plants to provide adequate coverage and ziptie them in there. I've invested too much time and money to make this detail negligible, everything matters.

So I'm stuck and need answers to my plant reering questions above, or I need a choice amongst those three and why in terms of my concerns

 

[Gingero]

You might find these videos helpful. I even show how I used the two pot method to hang up my plants in the 2nd video. You’ll know once you start adding them in if it’ll be necessary to use more/less. Typically plants are pretty small when you first buy them so I would lean towards using a few extra small ones until they grow in.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

If the threshold is things that matter to providing the best possible environment for a cham, then correct I'm overthinking. If the threshold is providing a path for beginners to enter the hoby to provide the best possible life for the cham they will buy anyway...

I think any threshold is up to you.

Then look I'm just not the kind of person that can accept "you just get some plants to provide adequate coverage and ziptie them in there. I've invested too much time and money to make this detail negligible, everything matters.

That's good. Sounds to me like we're on the same page (or the same chapter).

So I'm stuck and need answers to my plant reering questions above, or I need a choice amongst those three and why in terms of my concerns

I'm not having a good day here... would you please elucidate?

 

[MissSkittles]

Preface: I know nothing about plants or growing them in pots. I have been doing my research and taking my time to execute a "textbook" forest edge a la chamaleonacademy.com for my first chameleon enclosure. I'm trying to sort out pots to use for the double pot method.

On the website it looks like he uses 0.5 gallon possibly for every plant, but it's hard to sort out dimensions the way these things are commonly sold and I have some questions as well. Also I thought it might be cool to use square pots to have a more secure attachment to the rails or branches.

Here's some options I'm looking at:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HV96YF1/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3NS2OYM30ZDP&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HVDXCCN/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=A2IU5AHCG4DBD4&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B093GSF2DK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A31QJLUCUTE3V&psc=1

Those range from 3.85 to 5.5 to 7 square width. So I find myself debating on size needed to grow the plants big enough but also not taking up too much space on the 12" rails, or volumetric enclosure space for the cham. As for specific plants I already found a large pothos in a standard hanging basket I was planning to repot to one of these pots and go on one side. I'm looking for one additional from the "trailing plant" category and one from the "accent plant" category to both go on the other wall and be replanted in these pots. The fourth plant I was planning on a large umbrella plant to go on the bottom and grow up since the floor of my enclosure can support it.

Final question is will this choice on pot size inhibit my pothos' ability to grow all over? And if I get smaller plants for the two wall plants I still need and put them in these will they grow into the larger pots?

Thoughts and recommendations are appreciated. Thanks!

I would stick with the 2 larger pots for your hanging plants. I generally only put 2 pots on each side and 1-2 on the back of my 2x2x4’ enclosures plus a larger centerpiece plant on the floor, with maybe a few smaller plants to fill the space.
The pothos will grow it’s long beautiful vines in and around whatever you have in your enclosure, including rooting themselves in whatever other soil they happen across.
Do make sure to provide adequate drainage in your pots. Along with the drainage holes, I always add a bit of pebbles in the bottom.
It will be important to have a good plant light. Some of us like/use these. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TKKG8Q3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[ccclcl]

I'm not having a good day here... would you please elucidate?

I guess I've somewhat came to terms with that there's too many variables in the plants and their sizes, that I still need to purchase, to have the potting situation solved in advanced. I'll likely just get the additional plants I need and work with the pots they come with for now

Edit: and also I learned that you can have too big of a pot for smaller plants, so that helped a lot

 

[ccclcl]

I would stick with the 2 larger pots for your hanging plants. I generally only put 2 pots on each side and 1-2 on the back of my 2x2x4’ enclosures plus a larger centerpiece plant on the floor, with maybe a few smaller plants to fill the space.
The pothos will grow it’s long beautiful vines in and around whatever you have in your enclosure, including rooting themselves in whatever other soil they happen across.
Do make sure to provide adequate drainage in your pots. Along with the drainage holes, I always add a bit of pebbles in the bottom.
It will be important to have a good plant light. Some of us like/use these. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TKKG8Q3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks. Also on plant lighting I was feeling spendy and already got a jungle dawn to go with my prot5 fixture, but I probably should have saved the money and got one like you linked