RI and slight tongue troubles

zlew

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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Ambilobe Panther Chameleon, 14-15 months old, male, named Captain. Had him since November 30.
Handling - Once a day or less. Once he's out he is totally fine, but he doesn't like my hand in his cage unless I'm feeding him. He also loves showers, so I try to get him in one at least once a week.

Feeding - He gets fed every other day, with treats in between. He really, really, loves crickets, so I've been gut loading them well (lettuce, carrot, potato, sweet potato, apple, baby spinach, etc.) He doesn't go for roaches, hornworms, phoenix worms he used to but not so much these days, but he'll eat the soldier flies. Recently I've tried silkworms which he seems to like, I haven't given him a full meal of them yet because they aren't big enough.

Supplements - Calcium w/o d3 every feeding
multivitamin twice a month
d3 twice a month.

Watering - Mister that goes off every 2.5 hours for four minutes. He also has a chameleon cantina running full time.

Fecal Description - I'm uploading a picture. Has not been parasite checked.

History - He is in the last stages of anti biotic for an RI, that I kind of diagnosed myself I saw strings and bubbles and my vet does not have huge amounts of experience with chameleons so I mentioned it and he said it could be, so he prescribed the meds. The dosage is 4 units, over 14 days, total 1 mL given.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Reptibreeze XL

Lighting - 75watt basking spot lamp and a reptisun 5.0 tube.

Temperature - basking spot around 100 degrees, recently i had a 100watt there and it was up to 112, but he wasn't burned and spent most of his time there, so I'm wondering if my probe is working right. Bottom of the cage about 68, low seventies in the middle.

Lowest overnight temp? Probably around 63 degrees, according to my thermostat.

Humidity - I use a probe, and it is about forty percent ambient-ly, with spikes and drops in concurrence with the misting schedule.
Plants - None at the moment, but I'm getting a money tree and a pathos which should be arriving within the next two weeks. Otherwise everything is artificial.
Placement - Cage is in my bedroom, the top is 6 feet above the floor. Not near fans or anything, but is next to a window, but he can only see the sky.
Location - NY

Current Problem- The bubbles in his mouth went away mostly, but there are still strings enough for me to be worried and it's nearing the end of his course of antibiotics. He also has been taking weird tongue shots. The first time he shoots at a bug, his tongue will miss by a long shot and not go out of his mouth very far, but the second shot is spot on. Normal? Abnormal? Also, a couple days ago he fell from the top of his cage while climbing the screen side and hurt is front left foot. He doesn't grip as well as his other hands, and he was using it like a fist intermittently. Like, not grabbing but putting his closed hand up and pulling with his wrist. It doesn't seem to be bothiering him anymore, but he is still weaker with it. Vet couldn't feel any breaks, and didn't X-ray since he could still use it.
 

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A couple of questions...do you see the saliva strings while he's actively drinking? A thirsty cham sometimes salivates fairly heavily while drinking. I would wonder if he's feeling the effects of the course of meds and they might be affecting his hydration balance temporarily. Antibiotics are hard on kidneys as I'm sure you know. They could also be interfering with his ability to make the most of his nutrition. Hard to say really.

IMHO, if he's eating and drinking, his RI is probably resolving itself. Just one other note...spinach is a calcium binder so it might affect how much of the CA is bioavailable in the gutload (but, you are dusting, so maybe its not a problem).
 
Well I haven't used spinach recently, I ran out 2 weeks ago, but it is part of my normal gut load, so I will cut it out of the diet. I'm going to take him in for a shower now, and then check his mouth to see whats happening there. Should I feed him extra while he's recovering?
 
Well I haven't used spinach recently, I ran out 2 weeks ago, but it is part of my normal gut load, so I will cut it out of the diet. I'm going to take him in for a shower now, and then check his mouth to see whats happening there. Should I feed him extra while he's recovering?

If he's lost some weight maybe. As long as he's eating well he should be able to gain it back. I've read that upping the vitamin C content of your feeder gutloads can help boost the immune system (it was suggested by someone to help guard against temporal gland infections in jax by lowering the pH of their saliva). Maybe upping the citrus fruit for a while might help and not hurt anything.
 
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