Sexing Babies...

[Karmaliedtome]

I know everyone hates this question but I need to ask: can someone help with sexing babies? I know that there is really no 100% way of knowing before, let's say, 4 months. I've had female veileds before but I wanna get a male panther. I'm done with the eggs and what not. I know about the bulge and colors but I'd like some camparison pictures. I'm looking at a Blue Bar Ambilobe and a Sambava. Both are about 3" s/v around 3 months old. I'm just looking for some side to side pics of males and females. Babies preferably. I can tell adults! If anyone can help me out I would greatly appretiate it! Thanks & Cheers.

 

[Sang]

ok, here is my sambava female @ 3 months *both are sambava.

and here is my male at about 4 months.

they are pretty obviously different. BUT the male has a small buldge at his tail, while the female doesn't .

 

[Karmaliedtome]

Thanks a lot! You've done more in those 2 pics than what I've found in the entire google-sphere! Cheers! Anyone else, more pics just mean more comparisons!

 

[karebear41486]

Hey there!
When I first got my panther I posted a TON of pics in a thread...here's the link.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/my-precious-little-baby-4486/

He was about 3 months old in the first pictures, and there are pictures from about two weeks after I got him on there as well. There are a bunch of different shots and angles, so you should check it out! Hopefully it helps!

 

[Sang]

pay attention to the buldges, anything before 3 months is almost impossible to tell.


keep in mind that they can develop later in life, and end up with the buldge later then 3 months.

i had one hell of a awsome male sambava to start with.

 

[eisentrauti]

If the calyptratus are in perfect condition, it shouldn't be a problem to sex the babies, 4 months is a lot of time !

 

[ReverendLoveboys]

I forgot...karmaliedtome is my old name! lol. Anyways, Thanks a lot karebear. The pics are awesome! Thanks to everyone, I think I'm gonna push off getting one of these guys untill they're a little older. All but ONE of my lizards are female and I'm just through with the eggs. The bulge seems to be the best way to tell but someone in passing conversation said that there's a way to tell by the head? I'm guessing he assumed something like the casque on a veiled. I don't know. He's a reliable source of reptile info but I think he's also the type of person that doesn't think he's wrong. Any input?

 

[Kent67]

Panther chameleons can usually be sexed as soon as they hatch by the taper and shape of the tail base to vent. Immature lizards will have immature sexual organs thus you won't see any bulges in the tail for several months. I don't have a camera capable of getting very good closeups of babies otherwise I'd have some good examples to show you. Here's a good example of a male's tailbase from SSimsswiSS's gallery:

Females will not have such a linear profile from the bottom of the tail to the vent.

 

[ReverendLoveboys]

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks a lot. Keep posting pics! You guys are helping me out a ton! I'm really surprised that so many people jumped on this thread. I figured that this subject was just beaten to death.

 

[ReverendLoveboys]

By the way Kent, I love the Tom Waits quote!