Babies or too young animals to sex otherwise. For example Calummas like parsonii, brevicornis, oshaugnessyi, globifer, further Ch. dilepis, africanus, senegalensis etc F. balteatus - species where the young ones were exported. We never imported Tansania hence no experience with sexing melleri.
Btw, if it is doing correctly do probe is going into hemipenis WITHOUT any contrapressure. So if you feel even slightest resistance you need stop, it is gentle like if you touch butterfly wing without leaving fingerprint on it. If your are speading them you know about what I speek Same principe. Just experience.
Problem is: Did I try it move the probe in correct direction on correct place (if not you will tell that this female although it was male)? If you do not know how you are like blind walking in unknown territory. But you need start ONCE if you want master it.
Anyway, by female you have nothing to damage. And I am sure that hemipenis will heal again and they have 2 of them..... So it is really not any danger.
Btw, I will do it PRIOR purchasing any melleri. I prefer to get pair instead of 2 animals of same sex. I shall not purchase it if I can not sex it.
Buyer has no experience? But there is importer who can learn it easily - he has access to thousands of animals. But probably it is not in commercial interest because what to do by species where you are getting vas majority of one sex?
To damage the animal is possible after my opinon ONLY IF NOT FIXED PROPERLY and it started unexpectedly wildly moving. This you can not allow. There are working 2 peoples, so 3 hands are used fix animal (except small ones) and just one is gently TURNING well lubricated probe. The probe is going in hemipenis "by itself" there is practically not any pressure used to get it there. Damage is possible (and happened by me) when the unproperly fixed (or simple unexpectedly strong) animal started moving.
Problem can occur if somebody or something is disturbing you - and simple this danger exists. Form later 20 years I remember that I damaged just one snake on exchange day where behind me somebody dropped on floor glass terrarium - my nerves were not enough stabil not react because it was cobra and I did not trusted enough owner keeping it (He was in fact stabiler than me, he did not react anyway). With another words, in some situation is real pleasure keeping head not sexual organs ...
Btw, if it is doing correctly do probe is going into hemipenis WITHOUT any contrapressure. So if you feel even slightest resistance you need stop, it is gentle like if you touch butterfly wing without leaving fingerprint on it. If your are speading them you know about what I speek Same principe. Just experience.
Problem is: Did I try it move the probe in correct direction on correct place (if not you will tell that this female although it was male)? If you do not know how you are like blind walking in unknown territory. But you need start ONCE if you want master it.
Anyway, by female you have nothing to damage. And I am sure that hemipenis will heal again and they have 2 of them..... So it is really not any danger.
Btw, I will do it PRIOR purchasing any melleri. I prefer to get pair instead of 2 animals of same sex. I shall not purchase it if I can not sex it.
Buyer has no experience? But there is importer who can learn it easily - he has access to thousands of animals. But probably it is not in commercial interest because what to do by species where you are getting vas majority of one sex?
To damage the animal is possible after my opinon ONLY IF NOT FIXED PROPERLY and it started unexpectedly wildly moving. This you can not allow. There are working 2 peoples, so 3 hands are used fix animal (except small ones) and just one is gently TURNING well lubricated probe. The probe is going in hemipenis "by itself" there is practically not any pressure used to get it there. Damage is possible (and happened by me) when the unproperly fixed (or simple unexpectedly strong) animal started moving.
Problem can occur if somebody or something is disturbing you - and simple this danger exists. Form later 20 years I remember that I damaged just one snake on exchange day where behind me somebody dropped on floor glass terrarium - my nerves were not enough stabil not react because it was cobra and I did not trusted enough owner keeping it (He was in fact stabiler than me, he did not react anyway). With another words, in some situation is real pleasure keeping head not sexual organs ...
