Start of MBD?

LexInSpace

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I'm new to chameleons. Ive had this little guy for about a month and a half. I mist him and he has a dripped. He's eating and I saw him drinking last night. But he's starting to seem like his back legs are a little odd. I do tend to jump to conclusions but I was told they can go downhill quickly. I have the three types of calcium. One for daily, the other two alternate sundays. He eats gutloaded crickets, small meal worms, wax worms, black fly larvae, and had his first baby horn worm today. This past week the black soldier fly came out of its cocoon so he ate two of those and a few of the wax worm moths. I keep his basking area at 90 and other areas of the screen cage in the 70-80. He has the recommended uvb bulb too. He gets pretty active when I let him out to sun in the ficus tree (indoor) So I guess I'm just wondering if the change in the way he sits is normal, or if I just never noticed before. I thought maybe constipation was a possibility. I don't use substrate though. I've attached a few pictures. Any advice is appreciated!
 
Welcome you have a handsome guy there !!. Can you see Spurs ? Also I would not feed meal worms there all fat and hard bodied they can cause impaction . I'm new at this to only have one chamealon but he looks good to me . There's lots of great keepers check in with @Nursemaia or @Andee one or the other will give you an answer .
 
Also you're enclosure temperature should be low 70s basking 82 to 84 . If the rest of enclosure is 80s you're baby can't cool down if need be .
 
From your pics he looks good to me. If you fill out the how to ask for help form that will give us an idea of exactly what your doing for husbandry and we can help you tweek any issues.
 
I agree that the colors look more similar to female for that stage of life, but it depends on if you see apurs. There isn't much weird about the way he sits except that he seems to grip looser with one foot consistently. You can try checking it's grip compared to his other feet. Otherwise he looks fine. Also I agree slow down on the mealworms, if you feed any, feed very few only once a month. Wax worms need to be slowed down on too. The moths are a little bit better, yet both a very fatty.
 
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care? About a month and a half
  • Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? I take him out in the mornings, I'll hand feed him a few worms. Then he suns himself on the ficus tree for about an hour before going back for breakfast in his cage.
  • Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders? Crickets, wax worms (treat every few days), meal worms, horned worm babies, black fly larva, (silk worms soon)
  • Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? Rep-cal Calcium daily, rep-cal calcium with vit d (2x a month), rep-cal herptivite multi (2x a month)
  • Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? Misting 2x daily, dripper 2x daily. I also just got a little battery operated fountain to try in his cage. I've seen him drink a few times. Yesterday was the last.
  • Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? Dark brown/white looks like form bird poop?
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. Purchased from lll reptile. I got my dart frogs from them also, so far no bad experiences.

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? Zoo med screen cage starter kit 16x16x30
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? Zoo me day uvb repti 5, daylight blue repti bulb, 60 wat basking light.
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? 90 at the highest basking spot, floor mid 70s
  • Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps? Lowest high 60s-low 70s. Temp in cage and where my frogs are across the room.
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity? It says 33 at the moment. Goes to high 50%. I'm hoping the fountain will help with humidity.
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? Ficus (basking spot out of cage) in cage: rubber tree, pathos, vines and fake ivy.
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? Corner of living room. Low traffic and away from fans.
  • Location - Where are you geographically located? San Diego

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about. He seemed to be sitting funny. But when he's out he is active and puts weight on all feet. I'll attach a pic of his back feet. The guys at the shop said he was male. It took a while to find one though, so I wouldn't be surprised if he is a she! Thanks for all the help and advice! I'll turn his heat down a bit!
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No definitely a he, just seems like he is either ahead with growing or behind with colors, neither of which is much of a worry. I see what you mean now that I see the new pic. His back foot shouldn't be turned that way, however he shows really no signs of mbd. If I was to guess it's a birth defect since there is no swelling to suggest a break. Either that or he fell when he was neonate and broke his ankle, and it wasn't attended to correctly and just healed like that. Unless when you touch it he expresses pain i really wouldn't worry about it much. I would just watch it as he grows older, he may get arthritis in the area sooner than expected.
 
Thank you for all the helpful advice! I'm a worry wart with my babies. Hopefully I can get his diet down. It seems like a bit of an art form! As long as he's happy and healthy, totally worth it.
 
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