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morpheon
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Where would you leave it? Do you have the proper enclosure for outside and inside??
Nevertheless, it isn't advised to leave your chameleon outside the whole day long without close supervision...And i doubt you will spend 10 hours a day seven days a week at home just to make sure he is Ok and that your misting system is working properly!
Nevertheless, it isn't advised to leave your chameleon outside the whole day long without close supervision...And i doubt you will spend 10 hours a day seven days a week at home just to make sure he is Ok and that your misting system is working properly!
justjumpit621
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I am pretty sure many people house their chameleons solely outside. I know Summoner does. They only bring them in when it gets cold.
renzo0684
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There are some people on here that do have their chams set up outside all the time in the summer. they have their mistkings going and have beautiful chams from all that sunlight! I wish I could do that here in Colorado! =]
renzo0684
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morpheon
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I have no problem with that, if their enclosures are made for that purpose!
However, i don't think this guy necessarily have one for his chameleon, otherwise he wouldn't be asking that question!
If the chameleon doesn't have a right places to hide from the sun, and doesn't have the proper humidity level and water sources, it could be fatal as it has been stated in a previous post i read just 3 days ago! And let's not forget the temperature required!
The story was about 3 Pardalis who died when some guy left his chameleons outside on a sunny day. His misting system didn't work properly, so when he came back his chameleons were dead...
However, i don't think this guy necessarily have one for his chameleon, otherwise he wouldn't be asking that question!
If the chameleon doesn't have a right places to hide from the sun, and doesn't have the proper humidity level and water sources, it could be fatal as it has been stated in a previous post i read just 3 days ago! And let's not forget the temperature required!
The story was about 3 Pardalis who died when some guy left his chameleons outside on a sunny day. His misting system didn't work properly, so when he came back his chameleons were dead...
morpheon
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If you take a closer look at the guy, he mentionned in a previous post that he bought a 65 reptarium package from LLL.
Now, unless he plans on moving it in and out all day, he will need a second enclosure. Also, if he leaves it outside, he will need a misting system, which he didn't mention owning one.
I think it is important to pay attention to who post the question, in order to make sure that he has the proper setup for his chameleon's health. Comparing Summoner to him may not be a good idea!
Now, unless he plans on moving it in and out all day, he will need a second enclosure. Also, if he leaves it outside, he will need a misting system, which he didn't mention owning one.
I think it is important to pay attention to who post the question, in order to make sure that he has the proper setup for his chameleon's health. Comparing Summoner to him may not be a good idea!
No I have a pump action sprayer. I would mist them 3 times daily. Also yes i would carry the reptarium in and out night and day. ITS NOT HEAVY! I have a large Umbrella tree and 2 pothos. I think that is enough shade. I dont appreciate the assumption that i do not know my husbandry. I have read read read like i was told to do. I was just curious if that was appropriate to sun them everyday, and not use a reptisun?
morpheon
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I never said you didn't know your husbandry!! All I said is that we can't compare you to Summoner, that's all. You and having your first chameleon experience versus Summoner who had chameleons for years, been on this forum for a while, and so on, it's not the same thing!
You know, the kind of setup i am used to for outside includes a backup generator in case of electricity problem, a backup misting system and more. However, i don't know what kind of setup the guys here use. I just stated that i doubted you'd have the right kit for it! It isn't against you, but for your chameleon's best.
The main idea in the outside/inside setup lies in the possibility of very high temperature peaks while you aren't home. At my home, inside, if my lamp breaks while i'm at school, it wont be fun, but my chameleon will have no problem surviving. However, if the setup was outside and the thing that broke was a misting system, it could be a completely different scenario!
You know, the kind of setup i am used to for outside includes a backup generator in case of electricity problem, a backup misting system and more. However, i don't know what kind of setup the guys here use. I just stated that i doubted you'd have the right kit for it!
It isn't against you, but for your chameleon's best. The main idea in the outside/inside setup lies in the possibility of very high temperature peaks while you aren't home. At my home, inside, if my lamp breaks while i'm at school, it wont be fun, but my chameleon will have no problem surviving. However, if the setup was outside and the thing that broke was a misting system, it could be a completely different scenario!
renzo0684
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I never said you didn't know your husbandry!! All I said is that we can't compare you to Summoner, that's all. You and having your first chameleon experience versus Summoner who had chameleons for years, been on this forum for a while, and so on, it's not the same thing!
You know, the kind of setup i am used to for outside includes a backup generator in case of electricity problem, a backup misting system and more. However, i don't know what kind of setup the guys here use. I just stated that i doubted you'd have the right kit for it!
The main idea in the outside/inside setup lies in the possibility of very high temperature peaks while you aren't home. At my home, inside, if my lamp breaks while i'm at school, it wont be fun, but my chameleon will have no problem surviving. However, if the setup was outside and the thing that broke was a misting system, it could be a completely different scenario!
You cant go making assumptions man. You gotta ask questions and if you get an answer that may not be favorable, help them out and make a suggestion on how to better it. You know what they say when you assume stuff right?
Elizadolots
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I suspect how good an idea this is varies greatly depending on geography. There are places where it's possible to leave chameleons out 24/7. The chameleon needs places to hide. It might even be a good idea to put something opaque over one corner so he'll have a guaranteed place to go hide if it gets too warm. Make sure the dripper holds enough water to be able to drip all day.
My biggest concern would be the fact that as Reptariums are, indeed, lightweight and easily carried, the cage + animal might attract the eyes and greedy fingers of a passing pedestrian.
It would feel safer to me if you could lock the cage to part of the house. Perhaps you could run a zip tie through the mesh around the pvc pipe, leave the loop somewhat loose so you can then hook a bike cable lock to it? Another concern: if someone did try to take it and got frustrated, might they then decide to punish you by letting your chameleon go? Fortunately, the solution for that is easy: buy a very small padlock and lock the two zipper pulls together.
My biggest concern would be the fact that as Reptariums are, indeed, lightweight and easily carried, the cage + animal might attract the eyes and greedy fingers of a passing pedestrian.
It would feel safer to me if you could lock the cage to part of the house. Perhaps you could run a zip tie through the mesh around the pvc pipe, leave the loop somewhat loose so you can then hook a bike cable lock to it? Another concern: if someone did try to take it and got frustrated, might they then decide to punish you by letting your chameleon go? Fortunately, the solution for that is easy: buy a very small padlock and lock the two zipper pulls together.
Thanks guys it would be in my backyard, that takes care of the people problem. I also have some extra fencing to i could fence in an area to put it in that takes care of the animal problem for the most part. And Morpheon i am sorry for jumping down your throat it just seemed to me you were questioning my abilities...thank you for your input..
pssh
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Hardware cloth on the outside of th cage seems to work best from what I've gathered. If there is no top cover any of those animals could get in there!
Have you thought about building an oudoor enclosure and just using the reptarium for inside. It would be WAY less stressful than moving his whole darned enclosure.
Have you thought about building an oudoor enclosure and just using the reptarium for inside. It would be WAY less stressful than moving his whole darned enclosure.
renzo0684
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Hardware cloth on the outside of th cage seems to work best from what I've gathered. If there is no top cover any of those animals could get in there!
Have you thought about building an oudoor enclosure and just using the reptarium for inside. It would be WAY less stressful than moving his whole darned enclosure.
I have to agree. Moving the whole cage can cause some stress. You can build a cage with $150 or less... I did mine and its huge 36Lx48Wx32T for about $135
What about the explorarium from LLL it looks pretty cool for sunning during the day? Check it out and tell me what you think?
Lizardlover
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hey, my chameleons are in reptariums, the 6 footers, but reptariums none-the-less, and they have been outside all their lives with me. I monitor temps all the time and they are hooked to mist systems, as long as you know what your doing have no worries.
