trioceros laterispinis
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leedragon
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if they sell some Youngs there should be some more people out there that has them. come on come on´, the predators are gone, show yourselves.
Motherlode Chameleon
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I actually think a small group made it to the states a couple years ago. I could not say who got the pairs that were for sale though.
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Jeremy A. Rich
leedragon
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yepp I thin I recall some threads and adds for laterispinis and other fun species bac in 2013 I think
jpowell86
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Well these people either killed them or they are recluses. Because they should be showing them off.
@Motherlode Chameleon, who brought them in? I wish they would get another order in progress.
@Motherlode Chameleon, who brought them in? I wish they would get another order in progress.
jpowell86
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Also, @leedragon, I thought I would upload this for you in particular. Knew you would enjoy the blues. Crappy pic, but it will do!
Also, @leedragon, I thought I would upload this for you in particular.
Action Jackson
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I believe Jessica Cuffee at Woodland Chameleons was the person who brought them in and still has them.
Motherlode Chameleon
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That sounds accurate. I would send her a pm to confirm if she has got some Trioceros laterispinis as of now.
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Jeremy A. Rich
leedragon
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daaamm man i owe you one. his colors looks like those crazy neon luminescing saltwater fishes.
cool man let me know what comes up.
Davecameos
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Only a few people I know breed them in Europe. I have been lucky to see them in person. Amazing species, sadly almost gone in the wild.
Davecameos
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One of the big problems about them is the clutches are mainly females.
leedragon
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do you know any estimations about how many there are left?
Davecameos
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I am afraid not. I think if they ever make it to Europe again , they will not be legal.
They should be protected in the wild where they live in my opinion. I was told they are almost gone.
Davecameos
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I only know a few people in Europe who has kept them.
leedragon
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that´s sound interesting. I never have hear of such in chameleons Before. I know of some daygeckos that are that way. do you have any papers where I can read about it?
Davecameos
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No sorry. That is just some breeder's experience here in Europe.
leedragon
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interesting. I wonder if they are affected by the temperatures the mothers are exposed to while gestating. the same way alligators and other reptiles are. there where some speculations that this was the case whith Yemens eggs. that temperatures affected the gender of the Youngs, altought proven to be wrong.
Motherlode Chameleon
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I just went through the IUCN Red List page last night and Trioceros laterispinis is listed by the IUCN as an Endangered species. They have got an extremely restricted range and the forest they do live in are heavily fragmented. This species appears to require much restoration of connecting the small forest fragments of that they live in now. Some good news there is conservation of this species and in their native habitat in the form of two nature preserves "the Kigogo Forest Reserve and Udzungwa Scarp Forest Reserve". This protects and conserve this species long term in their native habitat. Along with these reserves a third reserve appears to being made in the future.
Trioceros laterispinis is in rough shape in the wild. As of now I think this species could use some big population and habitat recovery in the wild before any Wild Caught quotas are made. Plus then a delisting from the Endangered status. However even with an IUCN Red List Endangered status, CITES has a farm quota for this species of 14 F1 farm bred Trioceros laterispinis for 2017. I am not the biggest fan of that policy the making an Endangered species a CITES quota species. Especially without a positive trend at reversing the species decline in their native habitat.
Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich
Trioceros laterispinis is in rough shape in the wild. As of now I think this species could use some big population and habitat recovery in the wild before any Wild Caught quotas are made. Plus then a delisting from the Endangered status. However even with an IUCN Red List Endangered status, CITES has a farm quota for this species of 14 F1 farm bred Trioceros laterispinis for 2017. I am not the biggest fan of that policy the making an Endangered species a CITES quota species. Especially without a positive trend at reversing the species decline in their native habitat.
Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich
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Davecameos
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I think all the efforts should be done on helping, protecting and restoring their habitat.
I do not understand how they dare to say there are cites when the wild animals are extremely hard to find in the area.
Hope they do not get exported until the numbers increase in the wild.
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