two chameleon setup.. will this work? (for the meantime)

[jarwintee]

hi guys,
so here is my dilemma, we were originally getting just one veiled chameleon, but ended up with two. one male and one female, they have been together with 3 other chameleons in one enclosure (therye all siblings) in their breeders home. theyre around 4-6 months.
all our preparations were for just one chameleon, so we just let them stay in one reptibreeze cage (24x24x48) with a uvb and basking bulb for now.
i noticed that the female turns brown and looks like its screaming everytime the male goes near, while the male keeps hiding in the lower parts, and the female always eats first, while the male eats less. which verifies everything ive read on keeping chams together.
I will build another cage for the female, but i dont have the time yet.
i also have a naturalistic terrarium 12x12x18, im planning on just transferring the female there for the meantime (she's smaller), but i dont have anymore uvb or basking lights, and i dont know how to properly fit those in a 12x12 area, it seems too cramped and im scared that the basking light will heat up the whole terrarium like an oven.
will it be okay to just leave the terrarium outside, even during rainy days, for the female's uvb needs? the outside location is covered by the balcony and some shade. and will a basking light still be needed if the outside temp is around 80-85F?
comments and suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated, really dont want to stress my chams out...

 

[Carlton]

hi guys,
so here is my dilemma, we were originally getting just one veiled chameleon, but ended up with two. one male and one female, they have been together with 3 other chameleons in one enclosure (therye all siblings) in their breeders home. theyre around 4-6 months.
all our preparations were for just one chameleon, so we just let them stay in one reptibreeze cage (24x24x48) with a uvb and basking bulb for now.
i noticed that the female turns brown and looks like its screaming everytime the male goes near, while the male keeps hiding in the lower parts, and the female always eats first, while the male eats less. which verifies everything ive read on keeping chams together.
I will build another cage for the female, but i dont have the time yet.
i also have a naturalistic terrarium 12x12x18, im planning on just transferring the female there for the meantime (she's smaller), but i dont have anymore uvb or basking lights, and i dont know how to properly fit those in a 12x12 area, it seems too cramped and im scared that the basking light will heat up the whole terrarium like an oven.
will it be okay to just leave the terrarium outside, even during rainy days, for the female's uvb needs? the outside location is covered by the balcony and some shade. and will a basking light still be needed if the outside temp is around 80-85F?
comments and suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated, really dont want to stress my chams out...

Can you divide the Reptibreeze in two with a visual barrier (like a piece of cloth, towel, opaque plastic like Coroplast)? That way they can share lights and space, just can't see each other.

 

[jarwintee]

i actually attempted that, but with just one potted plant insided coupled with twigs branches and plastic leaves, it was difficult to put a divider in the middle unless i used 2 separate setup of plants per side

 

[jarwintee]

here are pictures of the two separate enclosure for now, with the smaller one placed outside (very gloomy weather here recently)

 

[GCash]

Glass enclosure+sunlight+greenhouse effect=cooked chameleon. Not to mention the glass cage is already too small for her. The full screen cage would be better outside because it won't retain as much heat.

 

[jarwintee]

it actually has a screen top, but yeah, im closely monitoring the temps of that one outside using a digital hygrometer, making sure the temps are around 80-82F.
I read from Jann's blog that female veiled dont really need a basking light, so i might just buy another UV light for the smaller cage so i can keep both of the cages inside.

 

[Candybugs]

That's exactly what happened to us we had to abruptly move our male out because the female attacked him. We were juggling lights and trying to do a whole new tank . Bad times.

 

[Candybugs]

Glass tanks outside is super risky

 

[unixmiah]

Do not put Chameleons in glasses. You can get 60% glass and 40% screen but its better to use 100% screen. They need air-flow.

 

[jarwintee]

yeah, i decided to just buy another UVB bulb for the smaller cage so i can keep it inside, i dont have space for a basking light though
i read from jannb's blog that female veileds dont really need a basking light (or she doesnt really use it for hers) so im hoping this will work for now
im just too busy now to build another cage, hopefully next week i can get some free time