32 eggs.....
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Kent67
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Psshhh. You haven't seen the new $700 incubators that are only big enough to hold ONE container the size of apple's there. They're programmable for day/night fluctuations and keep humidity and temperatures to 1/10th of a degree. Oh it's so worth it.
Vegas Chad
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So Trace... About the holes...
Vegas Chad
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Psshhh. You haven't seen the new $700 incubators that are only big enough to hold ONE container the size of apple's there. They're programmable for day/night fluctuations and keep humidity and temperatures to 1/10th of a degree. Oh it's so worth it.
Saw them at the anaheim show... They have a picture of a cham on the egg type and he said that it could not do anything to cool them off if they got to hot! So WTF.. Why am I going to pay that near 1k for something that I get for 'free' in my own home with the damn AC... Maybe for something else... not cham eggs tho
Vegas Chad
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Dont put holes in it Apple... I was just kidding.
Chameleons Northwest
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My husband was born in Brooklyn. Flatbush area. Now we've transplanted to the northwest. There's a deli here called "The Brooklyn Deli", but it's not even close to being the real thing.
I just wrote a lot more, but while I was writing this, a whole lot of other posts came in. So.....never mind.
Let us know how things go.
I just wrote a lot more, but while I was writing this, a whole lot of other posts came in. So.....never mind.
Let us know how things go.
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vegas..lollll gotchya ok ok im going to get vermiculite i hope the home depot next to my house has it even tho its a big piece of doo doo never has anything and im going to transfer the eggs into a bigger container i wont rotate them or roll them and poke two hole and then check once a wek for unfertilized eggs or dead eggs....ok guys/girls im going to finish my damn homeworki hate that word and ill keep updates...thank you very much for all of this wonderful info
i hate that word and ill keep updates...thank you very much for all of this wonderful info
Chameleons Northwest
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I've been wondering...after seeing our veiled dig a tunnel to bury her eggs...in the wild could there really be that much of a day/nite fluctuation in temperature- under the ground- in a forest or jungle? I could see it happening in the desert floor. But a forest floor seems to have a whole lot of built in insulation. Some books recommend a deep dip in temp at night when incubating eggs. Just wondering.
Vegas Chad
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I really doubt it... No more than what we see in our own homes. Would be kinda neat to find out for sure though...
I'm sorry you lost your female...but she did a great job of being able to lay the eggs in the state she was in. Its amazing! I hope they will hatch for you....it would be a good ending to a sad story. They all look good/fertile BTW. They could hatch as soon as 5 months from what I understand...but it could take as long as 9 or 10 months.
"Everyone" is right about using vermiculite...it works well. The coarse vermiculite holds the moisture more evenly in my experience. Its also right to err on the side of cooler than hotter.
I always get some condensation on the lid and the sides of the containers that I incubate the eggs in...and it has never caused a problem. I punch two VERY tiny holes in the lid. Don't forget that in the wild, the eggs would remain buried...so there isn't going to be airflow as such.
Good luck with them!
"Everyone" is right about using vermiculite...it works well. The coarse vermiculite holds the moisture more evenly in my experience. Its also right to err on the side of cooler than hotter.
I always get some condensation on the lid and the sides of the containers that I incubate the eggs in...and it has never caused a problem. I punch two VERY tiny holes in the lid. Don't forget that in the wild, the eggs would remain buried...so there isn't going to be airflow as such.
Good luck with them!
Vibrant Chameleons
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Why would you say this? How long have you been using it or have you used it at all? It's not a waist of money as a lot of people over hydrate their vermiculite.
As far as I'm concerned, to spend $15 on a bag of Hatchrite for a clutch of eggs in a VERY small investment. It's totally worth it...
Vibrant Chameleons
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For a beginner like yourself apple, I'd go with Hatchrite. It's already mixed and ready to go with no second guessing if you put too much or not enough water. All you'll have to do is put it into the container and put your eggs on top of the hatchrite. Poke one or two holes the size of a pencil in the lid and you're all set.
Dyesub Dave
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Hey Apple,
Congrats on your eggs. I'm sorry to hear about your female. I've been following your cham troubles on several threads in this forum. Years ago I had similar problems. I had a female that laid some eggs which I tried to incubate. Unfortunately none of the eggs made it and the female died several weeks later.
Luckily now I'm a little older and have a bit more patience and understanding of these beautiful creatures but still have much to learn. I'm constantly on these forums and searching the net for information on how to keep my chams and other pets happy and healthy.
I recently had a female lay some eggs as well and fortunately all the eggs and female seem well. You can see the thread with my progress here ...
https://www.chameleonforums.com/veiled-chameleon-not-laying-6156/
As you can see I've tried 2 different methods of keeping the eggs to see if one works better than the other. In my incubator my temps range from 82 deg. - 76 deg. and I have no idea of the range in the small container ... probably more like 83 - 66 deg. ... I'm guessing of course.
The only advice that I can really give you is to definitely get at least some vermiculite to put the eggs in. Don't wait for Hatchrite unless you can get it quickly ... as you should be able to get vermiculite TODAY. Try to keep the same side of the egg facing up when you transfer them and make small indents in the vermiculite with your finger so that the eggs are buried at least half-way in the substrate. Also ... something that I'm trying to help with condensation in the containers is CARDBOARD. In both of my egg containers I've used double-sided tape to stick a thick piece of box cardboard to the lid. This cardboard is cut slightly smaller than the lid so that it still seals when it closes and hopefully will stop droplets of condensation from falling on the eggs.
Anyways ... the best of luck with your eggs. Hopefully you will get some babies so that your female didn't die in vain. ( I had that happen once and it SUCKS! )
Dyesub Dave.
Congrats on your eggs. I'm sorry to hear about your female. I've been following your cham troubles on several threads in this forum. Years ago I had similar problems. I had a female that laid some eggs which I tried to incubate. Unfortunately none of the eggs made it and the female died several weeks later.
Luckily now I'm a little older and have a bit more patience and understanding of these beautiful creatures but still have much to learn. I'm constantly on these forums and searching the net for information on how to keep my chams and other pets happy and healthy.
I recently had a female lay some eggs as well and fortunately all the eggs and female seem well. You can see the thread with my progress here ...
https://www.chameleonforums.com/veiled-chameleon-not-laying-6156/
As you can see I've tried 2 different methods of keeping the eggs to see if one works better than the other. In my incubator my temps range from 82 deg. - 76 deg. and I have no idea of the range in the small container ... probably more like 83 - 66 deg. ... I'm guessing of course.
The only advice that I can really give you is to definitely get at least some vermiculite to put the eggs in. Don't wait for Hatchrite unless you can get it quickly ... as you should be able to get vermiculite TODAY. Try to keep the same side of the egg facing up when you transfer them and make small indents in the vermiculite with your finger so that the eggs are buried at least half-way in the substrate. Also ... something that I'm trying to help with condensation in the containers is CARDBOARD. In both of my egg containers I've used double-sided tape to stick a thick piece of box cardboard to the lid. This cardboard is cut slightly smaller than the lid so that it still seals when it closes and hopefully will stop droplets of condensation from falling on the eggs.
Anyways ... the best of luck with your eggs. Hopefully you will get some babies so that your female didn't die in vain. ( I had that happen once and it SUCKS! )
Dyesub Dave.
Trace
Captain Awesome
Pronounciation: Ver-mick-you-light.
Vermiculite is found in the plant section at Ho Depot, WalMart et.al. Try there first. If you absolutely want or can't find a bag of vermiculite, then PetSmart sells the Hatchrite. Maybe there is one close to you?
Good luck, keep us posted.
T
Edit: Here is the Hatchrite website: http://www.hatchrite.com/index.html It gives good tips on use and places to buy it. I'll will echo what others have said, your eggs need to be placed on a proper medium ASAP.
Vermiculite is found in the plant section at Ho Depot, WalMart et.al. Try there first. If you absolutely want or can't find a bag of vermiculite, then PetSmart sells the Hatchrite. Maybe there is one close to you?
Good luck, keep us posted.
T
Edit: Here is the Hatchrite website: http://www.hatchrite.com/index.html It gives good tips on use and places to buy it. I'll will echo what others have said, your eggs need to be placed on a proper medium ASAP.
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Dyesub Dave
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Any place that has gardening soil & sand should have vermiculite. (VER - MICK - YEW - LITE) .... I think that works! Probably the cheapest would be Wal-Mart as I know they carry it here in Canada. Also ... make sure that when you add water to the vermiculite that it clumps together but is not soaking wet. If you make a small ball with it in your hand it should stick together but not be dripping or feel wet to the touch.
*** [EDIT] ... MAN TRACE ... YOU'RE JUST TOO QUICK!! LOLOL ***
Dyesub Dave.
Probably the cheapest would be Wal-Mart as I know they carry it here in Canada. Also ... make sure that when you add water to the vermiculite that it clumps together but is not soaking wet. If you make a small ball with it in your hand it should stick together but not be dripping or feel wet to the touch.*** [EDIT] ... MAN TRACE ... YOU'RE JUST TOO QUICK!! LOLOL ***
Dyesub Dave.
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