Ambilobe male not acting right

Kat_72

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  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care? Panther Cham from Kammerflage Pure Ambilobe male from Bamboo Falcon and Coral. He is 8 months old. Size-wise, he is a little bit more like a 5.5 month old. But was informed he was very small before we got him. He has been in my care 3 months and has shed 3 times.
  • Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? Maybe a few times a week he’s pretty eager to get away from me.
  • Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders? Feeding Crickets from Josh’s Frogs and superworms from mulberry farms. He gets 3-4 medium crickets Mon Wed. Fri. Superworms tues Thursday Sat and off Sunday. Dusted with repashy calcium plus. Gutloaded with kale, carrots, apples and oranges. Plus bug burger.
  • Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? Repashy calcium plus every feeding.
  • Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? Mist king misting system with distilled water mists at 9 am 12 noon 3pm 6 pm 8 pm 3 minutes each.
  • Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? Brown with white and orange tip. Nothing today or yesterday.
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
  • No history to report besides the fact he was the size of a 3.5 month old at 5.5 months. He was a huge eater would chase down his crickets. I was overfeeding and was advised to change the schedule and offer a day off. By over feeding I mean 5-6 crickets 1/4 inch and a butterworm here and there with dubia as a substitute for crickets at times or even mixing it up two dubia and 3 crickets. Always used the same gutload and calcium plus.

Cage Info:

  • Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? He’s in a smaller reptibreeze 18 by 24 I think. Screen with plastic around to hold moisture.
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? Using the deep dome combo with 5.0 bulb daylight zoomed and a incandescent 65 watt bulb for heat.
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps? 70-80 degree night time low of 70
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity? Humidity varies from 70-80 percent.
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? Live pothos, umbrella tree and hibiscus
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? Cage in living room corner away from heavy traffic no vents
  • Location - Where are you geographically located? Pennsylvania

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about. He is sleeping during the day, I put the mister right on him to get him to move this afternoon and he drank a lot, he ate one large superworm and went back to the sleeping spot. Eye turrets look good last fecal was in the water from mister but had an orange tip mostly white urine. That was 3 days ago. Nothing yesterday or today. He ate crickets Monday to today and perked up a bit to hunt. Dusted with the repashy. I’m concerned because I have two other charms who are fine same feeding and water schedule from Kammerflage. Never had a fecal on any of them I have had my oldest male for 5-6 months he is the same age as this guy but twice the size. I thought maybe this panther was dwarfed or just a smaller Cham.
 

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You said..."70-80 degree night time low of 70"... The basking temperature should be in the mid 80's at that age. This may or may not be part of the problem.
 
You gutload your bugs with veggies and gutload with repashy bugburger AND use repashy calcium plus EVERY feeding?
Maybe he has a problem with too much vitamins? That surely is not the advised amound or frequency of vitamins to give to a chameleon.
But still, it may not be a problem caused by vitamins, just a possibility.
 
I’m new to Cham care but isn’t his cage really small ?? Everyone advises me on big cage 2x2x4 ? He can’t be to happy in a tiny cage he is bigger now right ? Can I see ur enclosure?
 
You gutload your bugs with veggies and gutload with repashy bugburger AND use repashy calcium plus EVERY feeding?
Maybe he has a problem with too much vitamins? That surely is not the advised amound or frequency of vitamins to give to a chameleon.
But still, it may not be a problem caused by vitamins, just a possibility.
The bug burger is given when I don’t do veggies, kinda a trade off. I have read forums where the calcium is changed to no d3 but my charms don’t get outside a lot now with the temps dropping to the 50-60 daytime temps outside. I wasn’t dusting the supers as I read they didn’t need it but crickets always get dusted. The breeder told me what calcium to use and frequency. I don’t know about the lighting wish I had the Arcadia. He has always been super active. The temp at the top of his cage is higher 84-86 the 80 is the mid cage point sorry.
 
I’m new to Cham care but isn’t his cage really small ?? Everyone advises me on big cage 2x2x4 ? He can’t be to happy in a tiny cage he is bigger now right ? Can I see ur enclosure?
Yes he is in a smaller cage but again he is smaller than the normal size cham. My other two are in the largest screen cages. I’m going to try and get a fecal to the vet.
 

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Yes he is in a smaller cage but again he is smaller than the normal size cham. My other two are in the largest screen cages. I’m going to try and get a fecal to the vet.
The temp and humidity here are early am temps with outside temps in the 50s.
 
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