another update on Po
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alexyboo909
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keep it coming! my poor girls probably miserable in there.
I wish i could save her! just poof her back home and all better.
I wish i could save her! just poof her back home and all better.
Trace
Captain Awesome
You are paying for a service (well Laurie is in this case and I’m sure this is getting REALLY expensive) and if you aren't understanding what the doctors are saying to you please ask for clarification. We can only guess at what kind of ‘toxicity’ it is. If you don’t know what is wrong or what meds are being used, how are you going to properly care for Po at home.
I used to work for a herp vet and when the reptiles would come in the owners already had preconceived notions as to what was wrong with their pet – often diagnosed incorrectly from inexperienced members on sites like this one. I mean how often to we read the 'vets don’t know what they are doing when it comes to herps’ and ‘they are only here to gouge the client’. Not true. It’s difficult to work against such notions and if people aren’t listening to the actual diagnosis and follow up homecare plan (because the information is easier to understand or more familiar here) often times the animal doesn’t make it once it does get home.
alexyboo909
New Member
Okay look, I misheard her because I was in the middle of a drag show history presentation when she called .. and even outside of the room was loud.
I know how to take care of my chameleon and I bust my ass to make sure things are perfect for her. I drove her 2 hours out of my way to take her to a vet that knows what they're doing after already trying one vet in Spokane.
I give you guys vague descriptions of what the vet is saying because it's a lot to remember and I usually write it all down hours after the call.
Oh and for your information the bill isn't ridiculously high because the vet is working with me on price.
Don't talk down to me like that again.
I know how to take care of my chameleon and I bust my ass to make sure things are perfect for her. I drove her 2 hours out of my way to take her to a vet that knows what they're doing after already trying one vet in Spokane.
I give you guys vague descriptions of what the vet is saying because it's a lot to remember and I usually write it all down hours after the call.
Oh and for your information the bill isn't ridiculously high because the vet is working with me on price.
Don't talk down to me like that again.
alexyboo909
New Member
I'll be getting another call from the vet today , so we'll know if her kidneys are functioning any better.
positive energy to Po!
positive energy to Po!
alexyboo909
New Member
very true, her vet is a good one.
very true, her vet is a good one.
I know how hard it can be... knowing Po is in good hands does help a lot I'm sure. Hang in there and I look forward to getting a good update soon
Cameron B
Established Member
No offense, but I think I'd have more respect for this statement coming from Laurie and not yourself. I trust your judgement, but going along the lines of condescending attitudes this statement of yours regarding price is subjective depending on the person footing the bill. I guess what I'm trying to say is...is it so inexpensive that you can and should foot the bill instead? Or is it more than you can bear and Laurie's good gesture is doing you some wonders? These are things to consider before making such statements.
Assuming you're speaking to Trace (which is crazy already if you are speaking to her this way), I agree with her. Trace's point is not to call you "dumb." Her point is to say that as a gentle reminder you've been given a great opportunity to speak with a vet who has much more knowledge of your chameleons situation than many of us on the forums do. Considering how much love you have for Po it's best you utilize this "free" moment to grab as much information and retain such in your mind as you can! If you misheard something, don't be afraid to ask questions and clarify further with the vet. If you do this already, great. That said, I can't blame Trace for giving you good advice in a time when on the forum it appears you haven't heard everything clearly from the vet. It's a simple observation is all, and doesn't mean you're a bad person or chameleon keeper.
Are we talking about Trace? He is a she.
alexyboo909
New Member
Laurie was helping because I had only enough money to get her to the vet.
But since you're really making me feel like a total asshole for taking a donation
I'll figure out someway else to pay for the bill.
If you had some friendly advice I'D GLADLY TAKE IT.
But really, giving me shit for not hearing things correctly? that's cool.
I get where you're trying to go with this but your bashing on me and it's pissing me off. I took Po to the ONLY vet in eastern Washington that has any knowledge of chameleons, if that's not good enough for you I don't know what is.
You guys won't be hearing from me again I'll deal with my chameleon without your input .
Thanks , but no thanks assholes.
But since you're really making me feel like a total asshole for taking a donation
I'll figure out someway else to pay for the bill.
If you had some friendly advice I'D GLADLY TAKE IT.
But really, giving me shit for not hearing things correctly? that's cool.
I get where you're trying to go with this but your bashing on me and it's pissing me off. I took Po to the ONLY vet in eastern Washington that has any knowledge of chameleons, if that's not good enough for you I don't know what is.
You guys won't be hearing from me again I'll deal with my chameleon without your input .
Thanks , but no thanks assholes.
Whatcamo
New Member
Take it easy chick we all want you around there are just a few people on here who don't know the whole story and they chime in without knowing it so the least they could do is look at your previous threads leading up to this one ya know before they get critical happy happy thoughts
happy happy thoughts
Cameron B
Established Member
I don't quite see where anything I said was rude at all. In fact, I believe I clarified that you are not to be perceived as a bad person or chameleon keeper. If you'd like to point out something I stated (please quote it word for word) I'd be happy to try and see your side.
Thus far I am seeing your inability to take anything constructive as good. You are able to dish stuff out, but when it comes around to you in a lower dose you aren't pleased.
You also clearly missed the point about taking advantage of the situation in your hands. Rather than understand that people are telling you to basically hound your vet for info since the info is at your fingertips, you have perceived us as "assholes." Immature is the first word that comes to mind there.
As for the donation: it was simply pointed out that you probably should not discount the fact that the bill is subjectively high. Even if it's not, stating so is a discount to the immense heart Laurie pours out to us in the community. That said, I said it was subjective, and while you think it's cheap, apparently it's not cheap enough considering you could only afford the drive itself. I have every respect in the world for you making the effort to take a long drive and give Po the best treatment possible, but all I'm saying is to be careful not to discount others' efforts in the process. You're not alone in this adventure.
Best of luck in school and whatever you choose to do, and best wishes to Po.
Thus far I am seeing your inability to take anything constructive as good. You are able to dish stuff out, but when it comes around to you in a lower dose you aren't pleased.
You also clearly missed the point about taking advantage of the situation in your hands. Rather than understand that people are telling you to basically hound your vet for info since the info is at your fingertips, you have perceived us as "assholes." Immature is the first word that comes to mind there.
As for the donation: it was simply pointed out that you probably should not discount the fact that the bill is subjectively high. Even if it's not, stating so is a discount to the immense heart Laurie pours out to us in the community. That said, I said it was subjective, and while you think it's cheap, apparently it's not cheap enough considering you could only afford the drive itself. I have every respect in the world for you making the effort to take a long drive and give Po the best treatment possible, but all I'm saying is to be careful not to discount others' efforts in the process. You're not alone in this adventure.
Best of luck in school and whatever you choose to do, and best wishes to Po.
alexyboo909
New Member
I said before that I give you people vague descriptions of our phone calls and trust me I ask my vet questions. I make it a point to call her myself everyday.
Don't worry I read and understood absolutely everything you have both said, but I've also seen it as rude and condescending.
Maybe you could have said it like this "Hey there Alex I see you're having trouble, keep in mind this could be a great learning experience and there's information you could take away from this"
Instead of correcting me after I was already corrected and then telling me you don't trust my words when I say she's a good vet, did I say she was some spectacular miracle working herp vet? no I didn't. So why would you go out of your way to take one little comment and criticize it?
You could have said these things gently or not at all because some of it was unnecessary.
I'm having a hard time with the quoting because I'm on my phone. Please only give me your opinion if you can do it in a somewhat friendly way because I was clearly offended by you.
Don't worry I read and understood absolutely everything you have both said, but I've also seen it as rude and condescending.
Maybe you could have said it like this "Hey there Alex I see you're having trouble, keep in mind this could be a great learning experience and there's information you could take away from this"
Instead of correcting me after I was already corrected and then telling me you don't trust my words when I say she's a good vet, did I say she was some spectacular miracle working herp vet? no I didn't. So why would you go out of your way to take one little comment and criticize it?
You could have said these things gently or not at all because some of it was unnecessary.
I'm having a hard time with the quoting because I'm on my phone. Please only give me your opinion if you can do it in a somewhat friendly way because I was clearly offended by you.
Hoj
Friendly Grasshopper
i understand you are getiing frustrated, but most are just trying to help...
please refraine from useing the foul language.
i dont think anyone is trying to come off rude on purpose.
best wishes for you and po, and make sure you take care of Laurie she is a great lady.
p.s. she really likes "Bounty" choc bars
please refraine from useing the foul language.
i dont think anyone is trying to come off rude on purpose.
best wishes for you and po, and make sure you take care of Laurie she is a great lady.
p.s. she really likes "Bounty" choc bars
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alexyboo909
New Member
seriously? I made a comment about how my vet is good and you start saying well actually I'd trust that if it was coming from Laurie, was that necessary? really?
whatever.
Anyways thanks for the info on the chocolate bars
whatever.
Anyways thanks for the info on the chocolate bars
Cameron B
Established Member
This is the clearest indication yet that you either:
A) Don't read fully
B) Don't understand.
Here's what I said:
And if you READ what it was in response to, it was me responding to a quote by YOU, Alex, about the fact that the bill is not high priced.
Quoting YOU:
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Not in ONE place did I challenge the competency of your vet. That seems like a rather silly thing for you to even assume considering I've been telling you to ask your vet questions and get info because it is he/she who is more knowledgeable than us about your chameleon's situation!
You really need to read.
Lastly I said NOTHING about trust. I said everything about RESPECT. I don't think it is proper for you to assume that a vet bill is cheap when you aren't the one footing the bill. Hence the reason I would have more RESPECT hearing such a statement from Laurie...the one footing (or originally intending to) the bill.
So, yes...seriously!
