Before and After with MBD
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Chameleons Northwest
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Thank you for sharing that. She looks great now. This will really give some people hope and let them know that it is worth the expense and vet trip to help their cham get over this terrible health issue.
Seconded.
I assume it's the thickness of her back leg and thinness of her front leg? I don't like to assume though, we all know what happens when we do that!
ciafardo 4
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I have hatched and raised quite a few veileds and i have never had one case of mbd . THEy were never really exposed to that much sun either but i did dust hatchlings feeders with cal d3 every feeding i guess just lucky
Predator9555
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My little Meller's cham is currently battling MBD. His case is quite mild because we caught it early and got him to a vet, but he is still recovering. Getting stronger every day though, so im hoping he will make a quick and total recovery!
Heres some pics of him with his MBD:
Its quite strange, because we got him Xrayed to see how bad it was, and his front legs were very weakened, while his back legs were still healthy and strong. But he only uses his front legs for climbing and his back dont seem to work at all. You can see him just hanging on in the 2nd picture.
My little Meller's cham is currently battling MBD. His case is quite mild because we caught it early and got him to a vet, but he is still recovering. Getting stronger every day though, so im hoping he will make a quick and total recovery!
Heres some pics of him with his MBD:
Its quite strange, because we got him Xrayed to see how bad it was, and his front legs were very weakened, while his back legs were still healthy and strong. But he only uses his front legs for climbing and his back dont seem to work at all. You can see him just hanging on in the 2nd picture.
If you go into the members gallery and click under "Jam" you can see my boy hermie. I wish I had more pictures (and most of those are of poor quality) but you can see the way his front legs bow out.
Hermie broke all four legs in at least one spot. He broke both hind femurs, his shoulder and radius/ulna on one front and his radius or ulna on the other front. His bone density was so bad that on xray you could not even SEE his bones or the breaks (it looked just like cartilage) in his legs. You could just see a spine and skull. his casque never got flimsy though.
Hermie is now almost 3.5 years old and still here to hiss about it. It took a lot of intenstive care, some very skilled and dedicated veterinarians. His legs healed crooked, (we opted not to put pins in although we did consider it) and it took a while for him to learn how to use them ... but he does great. I frequently find him in odd high places.
Hermie broke all four legs in at least one spot. He broke both hind femurs, his shoulder and radius/ulna on one front and his radius or ulna on the other front. His bone density was so bad that on xray you could not even SEE his bones or the breaks (it looked just like cartilage) in his legs. You could just see a spine and skull. his casque never got flimsy though.
Hermie is now almost 3.5 years old and still here to hiss about it. It took a lot of intenstive care, some very skilled and dedicated veterinarians. His legs healed crooked, (we opted not to put pins in although we did consider it) and it took a while for him to learn how to use them ... but he does great. I frequently find him in odd high places.
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Cainschams
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She definatly looks a lot better Im glad everything turned out alright for her.
Im glad everything turned out alright for her.
Sancho
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She definatly looks a lot better
Yeah 100% better! She eats now and doesn't act slow and shakey
Predator9555
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I posted earlier in this thread about my Meller's who has MBD at the moment. Im force feeding mine high-protein food with NEW nutrobal mixed in twice a day, 2ml a feed. Im assuming this is how you guys managed to get your chams out of MBD and back into health, as this is what my vet suggested.
One question... How long did it take for your chameleons to recover from MBD? Ive been force feeding mine about a week now, and misting as much as normal, but Gizmo wont eat any live food either from my hand or roaming in his cage, and he doesnt drink very often. He doesnt seem to be recovering a right lot and his back legs are still not working properly, he seems to just lie on a perch rather than holding himself up.
So how long did your MBD worries last? If not completely recovered, then when should you start to see improvements with lots of calcium/D3 feeding every day?
I posted earlier in this thread about my Meller's who has MBD at the moment. Im force feeding mine high-protein food with NEW nutrobal mixed in twice a day, 2ml a feed. Im assuming this is how you guys managed to get your chams out of MBD and back into health, as this is what my vet suggested.
One question... How long did it take for your chameleons to recover from MBD? Ive been force feeding mine about a week now, and misting as much as normal, but Gizmo wont eat any live food either from my hand or roaming in his cage, and he doesnt drink very often. He doesnt seem to be recovering a right lot and his back legs are still not working properly, he seems to just lie on a perch rather than holding himself up.
So how long did your MBD worries last? If not completely recovered, then when should you start to see improvements with lots of calcium/D3 feeding every day?
Hermie took about 6 months to be able to eat and move around on his own and a year to have normal bone density again.
First we just used the liquid calcium from the vet (first six months ... I think it's called gluconate or something) and after that we used weekly D3 injections with the anti-osteoporosis medicine injections with the calcium for a few months.
Jamie
First we just used the liquid calcium from the vet (first six months ... I think it's called gluconate or something) and after that we used weekly D3 injections with the anti-osteoporosis medicine injections with the calcium for a few months.
Jamie
Predator9555
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Its calcinate, i looked it up before going to the vets. Gluconate would be sugar
So you had to force feed your cham for 6 months then? My Gizmo moves around, but struggles, but he wont eat. Drinks on his own though. I dont think it is that severe as i think we caught it quite early. He is nowhere near as skinny as the veiled in the original post.
Looks like it will be a long trip for Gizmo. I hope he recovers as well as the chams in this thread.
So you had to force feed your cham for 6 months then? My Gizmo moves around, but struggles, but he wont eat. Drinks on his own though. I dont think it is that severe as i think we caught it quite early. He is nowhere near as skinny as the veiled in the original post.
Looks like it will be a long trip for Gizmo. I hope he recovers as well as the chams in this thread.
Sancho
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Its calcinate, i looked it up before going to the vets. Gluconate would be sugar
So you had to force feed your cham for 6 months then? My Gizmo moves around, but struggles, but he wont eat. Drinks on his own though. I dont think it is that severe as i think we caught it quite early. He is nowhere near as skinny as the veiled in the original post.
Looks like it will be a long trip for Gizmo. I hope he recovers as well as the chams in this thread.
I didn't have to force feed her. She ate fine and anytime she needed liquid calcium I just put a few drops on a live cricket or hornworm
Predator9555
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Damn. I was hoping someone would be able to tell me how to get him back onto normal food. If anyone else has any experience with force feeding chams?
Where can you get hold of liquid calcium? I hear it is much better than the powdered stuff?
Where can you get hold of liquid calcium? I hear it is much better than the powdered stuff?
Just because the chameleon is skinny doesn't mean it has MBD (metabolic bone disease), it could have just been under fed and that was why it was so gaunt, malnourished, dehydrated. A lot of people point the finger at MBD more than anything else. Sometimes it's true, a lot of times there's something else going on. MBD gets more misinformed than a lot of other factors/diseases/syndroms that are often overlooked or misdiagnosed. The best bet is to have a vet check it over.
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