best easiest feeders to breed?

Shrilly

Shrilly

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What is all around the best feeder and is easy to colonize and start breeding and easy to take care of and wot die off fast. Silwormms Dubia roaches crickets? whats the easiest and nutritious for chams etc.?

edit: this is for a little cham maybe a month old i believe and pinheads look too small to fill him up so i get REALLY small crickets am i doing this right or what?
 
Shrilly said:
What is all around the best feeder and is easy to colonize and start breeding and easy to take care of and wot die off fast. Silwormms Dubia roaches crickets? whats the easiest and nutritious for chams etc.?

edit: this is for a little cham maybe a month old i believe and pinheads look too small to fill him up so i get REALLY small crickets am i doing this right or what?
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Peopple normally do crickets and dubias as daily feeders. eveyrtrhing else are for treats or for when their chams go off crickets and dubias. which they do, chams will go on hunger strikes and stop eating certain things, or all together.

pinheads are fne for him, just feed hims lots. babies should eat as many as they want. no set number for babies.
 
For a month old cham your feeder choices are pretty limited. Pins up to 1 week cricks are prob going to be his/her staple. With Fruit flies being a good alternate feeder. You could also get some mantis ooths and hatch some mantis for him. Dubia are a good feeder but I dont try and feed them to my chams that are that young. I wait til they are at least 3-4 months before I start feeding them the small nymphs.
 
Texas Panther Man said:
For a month old cham your feeder choices are pretty limited. Pins up to 1 week cricks are prob going to be his/her staple. With Fruit flies being a good alternate feeder. You could also get some mantis ooths and hatch some mantis for him. Dubia are a good feeder but I dont try and feed them to my chams that are that young. I wait til they are at least 3-4 months before I start feeding them the small nymphs.
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What he said. but side note, fruit flies are really hard to feed sometimes. getting them out of the bottle, getting them where your cham can find them, etc. but are a great staple for babies. when your baby gets to be about 3-4 months old, you can try a small waxworm or two, but again, not a daily feeder.
 
Texas Panther Man said:
For a month old cham your feeder choices are pretty limited. Pins up to 1 week cricks are prob going to be his/her staple. With Fruit flies being a good alternate feeder. You could also get some mantis ooths and hatch some mantis for him. Dubia are a good feeder but I dont try and feed them to my chams that are that young. I wait til they are at least 3-4 months before I start feeding them the small nymphs.
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alot of information i am a simple person do i order these feeders or what? if so from where is there a reputable farmt hat will ship to Ocala Florida? the pinheads which are as small if not smaller than this dot . do i just leave her in a small enclasure for her to feast upon then take her out or what?
 
camimom said:
What he said. but side note, fruit flies are really hard to feed sometimes. getting them out of the bottle, getting them where your cham can find them, etc. but are a great staple for babies. when your baby gets to be about 3-4 months old, you can try a small waxworm or two, but again, not a daily feeder.
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If it isnt a daily feeder why do people waste thier times breeding such insects? for a treat 1s a week or?
 
Shrilly said:
If it isnt a daily feeder why do people waste thier times breeding such insects? for a treat 1s a week or?
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Pretty much. supers, horns, and waxes have nutrional value in them. they just arent good enough to be a daily feeder, though some people do use them. its kind of a personal preference thing. some do it too bc they have multiple chams and its cheaper to breed them than buy them.
 
but right now i do not know what is a best daily feeder i can breed to feed my 1-1.5month veiled chameleon that would be an easy process. If there is no breeding i can do to feed her tell me what i should buy a mass number of to feed her properly
pretty please:)
 
Supers can be gutloaded so they are a good feeder for older chams. The small supers you can prob start feedng at 4 months or so. Your right about the wax worms though they are basically a fat filled pastry to a chams system. Hornworms are another good feeder. Full of hydration and great for chams that need that extra water and will fatten up an underweight animal.
 
Shrilly said:
What is all around the best feeder and is easy to colonize and start breeding and easy to take care of and wot die off fast. Silwormms Dubia roaches crickets? whats the easiest and nutritious for chams etc.?

edit: this is for a little cham maybe a month old i believe and pinheads look too small to fill him up so i get REALLY small crickets am i doing this right or what?
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dubia dubia dubia dubia

$5-10/ month cost
15minutes/month maintenance

give htem all your leftover veggies, dont waste :)

like $30-50 setup cost



if pinheads are too small for him, newborn dubia nymphs should be just right
 
EvilLost said:
dubia dubia dubia dubia

$5-10/ month cost
15minutes/month maintenance

give htem all your leftover veggies, dont waste :)

like $30-50 setup cost



if pinheads are too small for him, newborn dubia nymphs should be just right
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alright thank you but where from what farm should i get dubia roaches and breed the to feed off there babyes to it?
 
As far as something you can breed easily I would say Dubia or FF and there are lot's of places to get FF (snailtail.com) is a good one. As far as Dubia I don't know since you are in FL. You can breed crickets but from what I have heard it is a pain and smelly (and I just hate crickets). Silks are a pain to breed and I for one haven't figured it out...I kill most of them and only the pretty small ones could be eaten by your cham and they you have to take care of them for a long time till you get some more that size. Hornworms are great but not something most are willing to breed since you have to feed the moths. Supers are pretty easy to breed and my breeding project (you can find my thread in the food section) has been going well. Cham's LOVE supers they are like candy and I try to limit them to 2 a day and have been feeding them since 2 1/2 mo.
 
OK i think i want to go with the dubia to start me off but i dont kno WHERE to start to breeding etc or even WHERE to get them? is there a site? and if i buy the smaller 1s is that a smaller breed or just younger? what size to buy to feed my 1 month veiled"?
 
I see that you are located in Florida. Dubia roaches are illegal to possess in Florida and no one will ship them to you there. Crickets are going to be your best option.
 
jdog1027 said:
I see that you are located in Florida. Dubia roaches are illegal to possess in Florida and no one will ship them to you there. Crickets are going to be your best option.
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but i hear dubias are so much better stupid florida florida is nuts if i get a DUI here its like a 3rd time offence in kentucky for the extent of punishment its nuts in florida all in all florida sucks i understand that much but what do i do then? this is a 1 month yr old i have here

edit: talked to mike from FL chams says small cricket that fit in with the length of its head are ok so ill go with that lol
 
In Florida, Dubias are out of contention. Go with Discoids here. Also the Black Soldier flies are pretty simple if you can start a colony and attract native flies to lay eggs, it never stops producing.
 
I would also recommend Black Soldier flies as chameleonoobie suggested. I set out a 5-gallon bucket in my yard this spring with some aspen shavings, a screened drainage hole and added some old decaying vegetable matter, and I saw flies around it within a few days. It is now producing 1000s of larva. It is almost zero work, but I must say, they eat pounds of food per week. Search Bio buckets on YouTube and you'll find some videos that give more details on how to set up the bucket.
 
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