Big Snake killed in Malaysia
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Kent67
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Wow. If that photograph is legit, it's too bad because that snake couldv'e been worth $50K. http://ca.encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/columns/?article=sciencesnakes
jojackson
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I think the photo is legit, but the snake is nowhere near that size. The angle of the photo, with the shovel & snake in front, and the men behind give a false impression of size. If the pink shirt guy was next to the snake, its head would be level with his waste. Its probly 20ft or so. The ground slopes down to the men.
Most sadly is that it was probably killed while basking to digest its meal. See the bulge near the tines of the shovel?
Most sadly is that it was probably killed while basking to digest its meal. See the bulge near the tines of the shovel?
summoner12
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i don't think that is legit... look at it clos..... look at the scoop on the digger... its HUGE...... why would they need a huge scoop in wet forested areas? it would weigh too much to scoop wet dirt if it is that big.... at least that is my two cents.
jojackson
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Whats not to beleive laurie? If it's a reticulated python, thats probly 18-20ft, They get bigger! I beleive burms get that big too.
Baby the burmese python
http://www.anapsid.org/louisbaby.html
and... Fluffy the retic
http://www.gadling.com/2008/01/13/thanks-to-snakes-on-a-plane-fluffy-the-worlds-largest-snake-i/
Baby the burmese python
http://www.anapsid.org/louisbaby.html
and... Fluffy the retic
http://www.gadling.com/2008/01/13/thanks-to-snakes-on-a-plane-fluffy-the-worlds-largest-snake-i/
Jonas
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It is of course a perspective-effect, much like when you take a picture of a fish that you caught and put it closer to the camera.
One interesting aspect is the difference between wild snakes and captive ones. The result of over-feeding is quite obvious, you dont see snakes with that kind of fat bodies in nature...
One interesting aspect is the difference between wild snakes and captive ones. The result of over-feeding is quite obvious, you dont see snakes with that kind of fat bodies in nature...
Jonas
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Yes, length-wise, they have the same potential in nature, that is for sure. Head size is pretty stable in snakes, so the captive ones get "pin-heads" compared to their body size.
Its always a shame when good sized adult animals get killed like this in nature, they are the ones that have the best chance to reproduce.
Its always a shame when good sized adult animals get killed like this in nature, they are the ones that have the best chance to reproduce.
Lizardlover
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Dannnnngg! It amazes me how some people just dont get it. A snake of that size could be worth something, if its not why kill something thats taken that long to get that way??
I agree completely Jonas. Thanks for being a news-man Dan!
I agree completely Jonas. Thanks for being a news-man Dan!
summoner12
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I wonder how the guy keeps baby from eating the other two snakes in its same habitat.... can't snakes be aggressive? or they don't care about other snakes until they are hungry?
summoner12
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what kind of injury? do they bite eachother? whip one another?
jojackson
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Yes they can, but bare in mind they are for a reason, be it hunger, or male combat in season, etc. Snakes can be kept together, but I dont ever recommend mixing species or housing 2 males, nor ever feeding snakes together or housing snakes of significantly different size (unless its a pair, even then). Any of those is recipe for disaster.
Its likely he kept them overfed.
They will bite and lacerate the crap out of one another in some cases, sometimes to the death without intervention. (cant escape each other in captivity) (not all get nasty but its normal when males combat for a female) Mostly little damage is inflicted, atleast in the wild. . Intrestingly, some venomous snakes are quite gentlemanly about it and inflict no damage at all, rather having a graceful and amusing wresting match, in which each tries to push the other to the ground.
It can last hours and eventually one conceeds and simply wanders off, neither wasting a single drop of venom and without a single bite. (youtube/google King cobra male combat)
Feeding together: Theres no actuall biting/fighting but boths instincts will kick in and both will try to eat the same food source, aka each end of a rat. One will keep going when the rat runs out and eat the other (or try) usually leading to the death of both.
Fighting over territory (in captivity) is pretty much unheard of, the larger simply dominates, getting the best hide, basking place etc. The dominated one lives in stress and its immunity to disease will weaken, it becomes ill and stops feeding etc.
Generally no, since 'large' snakes require/utilise large food sources which normally is mammals,
however constrictors all start on small ectothermic animals like lizards frogs and yes, small snakes if opportunity arose, before moving on to more substantial mammalian prey as they grow. Some constrictors are cannibles and are geared to munching others, like black heads Aspidites melanocephalus and womas. Both these eat smaller snakes aswell .
Black headed Pythons predominately feed on reptiles including other snakes but will eat mammals.
heres a vid of ball python males combating
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7A0LhtKJAY
carpets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACsvNd7vwa0
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Jonas
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Its not common, but you can never be to sure...
http://aquaticpredators.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7951
What people need to start understanding is the small confinement we keep our herptiles in. Nowhere in nature will you find several individuals in the same sized area as our cages.
http://aquaticpredators.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7951
What people need to start understanding is the small confinement we keep our herptiles in. Nowhere in nature will you find several individuals in the same sized area as our cages.
jojackson
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Perfect example. I had a mate several years ago buy a new stunning jungle, paid $600 for it, it was smaller than the one he had and the opposit sex, so he thought he'd put them together. Less than a week later, about 3 days if memory serves, he rang me telling me his female was huge and lumpy, and the male has escaped.
One look confirmed no escape, she had eaten him!
1 python meal ~ $600
Mates disbeleif ~ priceless!
One look confirmed no escape, she had eaten him!
1 python meal ~ $600
Mates disbeleif ~ priceless!
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