Bored of same questions?

[chameleonkev]

I didn't mean to intimidate anyone that's why I apologised to one of the junior members, it was just a opinion that latly there has been a lot of similar threads that's all, I wernt singling anybody out it was more aimed at people who clearly don't do what is required of them as a chameleon owner hence why I gave an example of somebody I no, I'm sorry to offend anyone so I'd like the thread closed down, if anyone can pm me on how I go about this I'd be grateful

 

[Turningdoc]

I dont think you were intimidating people and that your pt is valid. Admins should consider splitting "General discussion" topic into general discussions and advanced topics discussion. I agree they dont want new users to leave, but they certainly dont want the advanced cham owners to either as they fuel the board. This is what other larger boards do.

 

[stuwoac]

That's also a interesting point, you do here a lot of different information an the main source of poor information does come from reptile shops, the ones your surpose to be able to trust an also I've read quite a few chameleon books an they also have some poor information so at least your in the right place, ignor me I'm in a bad mood England are loss in in the football lol

with are experiences so far its been down to the shop not giving us what we needed right from the start reading up on the chams now our first set up which was a starter kit from the shop £360 inc cham was completely the wrong set up for the little guy am not impressed and believe they shouldn't be able to sale these animals if not specialized.

we had bark throw in (never use bark)

uvb blub wasnt strong enough

basking light was too hot

not much of a starters kit

 

[Kate]

I understand where the op is coming from but as above the new owner leaves the shop thinking they have good information, then things go wrong and being quite desperate searches the net and finds us. When your Cham is showing signs of illness the first thing you do is post a question not trawl the forum for similar problems. With so many people using this forum and receiving almost instant advice IMO this is a sign of a very successful forum.

 

[Ulrich]

I find this threat a bit counterproductive. New time owners might have done their research yet are still overwhelmed by the situation of keeping such a fragile animal as pet. This forum is very active and precisely of that reason. Chams are amazing but don't make easy pets. When I was a first time owner I did my research and was still overwhelmed by the situation. I had a lot of questions and learned a lot at places like this. To gentrify exactly those in need might not be the best for our reputation as an instant and interactive source of knowledge and advise.

 

[JackP308]

Its a large world and lots of people ... Everyone needs answer. Im tired of the same people asking the same questions but I rather have some one ask it and get good info then search and find crap.

 

[amanda509]

this is a personal opinion, but, when a new keeper is doing research, does anyone really think they want to look through hundreds of threads for the specific information they are looking for? even with the search option, they still have threads to sort through. when i was a new member, i had specific questions relating to my specific situation that i wanted answered by real life credible people, and that was what i got! that was what made my first impression of this forum very helpful and kept me coming back!

it urks me when i get on another forum asking a question that may have been asked 100 times, but i really dont want to go through 100's of threads and it is specific to my situation, and have the forum members troll me on "why are you asking this, search the forums" and stuff like that...those are the forums i dont go back to.

many members on here dont mind answering the same questions every day because they know the op is getting the correct information, rather than searching the internet or talking to a pet store and getting the false stuff.

i would rather hear an answer from a real life person on my own thread about my situation, than read someone else's thread. but that does not mean past threads are useless, i still use them for information when i dont have a specific situation to relate them to.

this forum is an opportunity to talk to real life owners and get their experiences first hand!

 

[chameleonkev]

Its a large world and lots of people ... Everyone needs answer. Im tired of the same people asking the same questions but I rather have some one ask it and get good info then search and find crap.

Hit the nail on the head, I'm more than happy to help the people out there who are new to chams an are tryin to do there best, I get e mails of people with questions regularly and always do my best to help, it was a opinion an some people are taking it way to serious, someone close the thread please

 

[JackP308]

People here like to get there panties in a bunch, you have to remember this is a very active forum of all ages and mentality. So most threads take this direction.


Im the guy that walks in the exit and realized the door wont open. Sometimes I just cant see or im not looking

 

[laurie]

Total CRAP

Ok I am now on a rant. This come's from Laurie, not a moderator - just me. I will now respond in red to a couple posts

Anyone else sick of reading the same questions over and over? people give that much advise out and the next day you see the same questions up of another person, it seems to me a lot of these people don't do any research before getting the art. I'm just on this rant as I advised somebody I no with there chameleons as there making quite a few mistakes in basic husbandry an they've killed three of there chameleons so far,

If you are tired of it, don't read it, go to a part of the forum that has what YOU want. Some of us want to help new people

I may be new to this forum, and to the needs of this type of animal, but I know to do research before jumping in. What I found in this forum is a source of information that is from experience. For newcomers to the site, who are concerned for their pet, this is a great starting point. Sorry if I ask a question you have heard before, but for the sake of my new addition, I will keep asking.

Thank you, ask away, I am here to answer and help new people, because they want to learn or they would not be here.

No offense, but that's why people come here. Usually, most threads that weren't written by you don't apply to you or it isn't exactly what you were looking for. Yes, some questions are a little obvious, but we come here to help and gain knowledge of chameleons. Simple as that

Perfect response rep points for you.

Isn't it easyier to search for what you want if it's genaral husbandry related rather than starting yet another thread that's same as the million before? That way you get your answers fast an clear rather than waiting on people to reply

No it isn't, not all of us are computer kids, give people a break. Some people have trouble using search to locate what they want, if they don't really know what it is.

Then stop reading those posts/treads - Simple as that.

Ah yet another perfect response

People come here to learn proper care. I did plenty of research, but the information online seems to be inaccurate. Also many people stumble upon this forum and are new to forums in general. I personally had never participated in a forum before this one and wasn't familiar with how to use it. Sometimes it takes some time and help to figure it out. Maybe give newbies a break and just be happy that they are trying to do what is best for their Cham.

Another response from a person who has not been on the forums for a million years and remembers what it was like - thank you.

THANK YOU! I'm new to the forum and I don't mind seeing the repeats, not every thread is the same. The more info I can get the better. The more times you see something the better the chance you will remember.

You are the kind of person I love to help, I am a pm away.

I didn't mean to intimidate anyone that's why I apologised to one of the junior members, it was just a opinion that latly there has been a lot of similar threads that's all, I wernt singling anybody out it was more aimed at people who clearly don't do what is required of them as a chameleon owner hence why I gave an example of somebody I no, I'm sorry to offend anyone so I'd like the thread closed down, if anyone can pm me on how I go about this I'd be grateful

I can tell you how to get the thread closed - i could even do it, but I won't because we all need to remember we may want to learn advanced information, but should not lose sight of new people needing basic info that we should provide, and if you are here a long time the questions will be asked over & over. But each time it is a person needing help.

I dont think you were intimidating people and that your pt is valid. Admins should consider splitting "General discussion" topic into general discussions and advanced topics discussion. I agree they dont want new users to leave, but they certainly dont want the advanced cham owners to either as they fuel the board. This is what other larger boards do.

There is an advance topics area head on over.

I understand where the op is coming from but as above the new owner leaves the shop thinking they have good information, then things go wrong and being quite desperate searches the net and finds us. When your Cham is showing signs of illness the first thing you do is post a question not trawl the forum for similar problems. With so many people using this forum and receiving almost instant advice IMO this is a sign of a very successful forum.

Thank you, most of us try to help new people along the way as tons of new people come here after following pet shop info and them having a sick cham - they need us

I find this threat a bit counterproductive. New time owners might have done their research yet are still overwhelmed by the situation of keeping such a fragile animal as pet. This forum is very active and precisely of that reason. Chams are amazing but don't make easy pets. When I was a first time owner I did my research and was still overwhelmed by the situation. I had a lot of questions and learned a lot at places like this. To gentrify exactly those in need might not be the best for our reputation as an instant and interactive source of knowledge and advise.

You are my new hero, you think just like I do. I like to think we are a source for information to all people - new keepers and keepers who have had chams for years - I am always learning on this forum, and I have kept chams for a while

Its a large world and lots of people ... Everyone needs answer. Im tired of the same people asking the same questions but I rather have some one ask it and get good info then search and find crap.

Perfect statement for me to end my rant on. Thanks for stating it so well.

For all you new or older keepers, I personally am always willing to help, pm me and I will try.

 

[nightanole]

Hey it could always be worse. Anyone ever goto avsforums with 200page sections for each tv. Then when you ask a question people just link you to page 157 where the fix was.

Personally i like the repeat questions. Its like stock ticker that tells you whats going on in the community. If a bad light starts showing up you will get 10 threads. If a batch batch of chow comes up you will get 10 threads. If a new chow or technique comes up you will get several threads. You know its a bad time to buy silkies if you see several threads on how they cant find them.

 

[Hoj]

Well I think questions need to ba asked real and then asked again. Not only does the info change so fast as we are still learning Aboutthese wonderful creatures but asking a question ESP for the first time is a way to get involved and start participating in the forum. I have answered the same supplementing question, temps, ect ect ect. Impersonally don't mind and will continue to do anything I can to help members new and old learn and provide the best possible care for their Chams. As stated if one dosent have any interest of anything to add then just don't participate in that thread.
I love this forum and new members help keep it going and spreading.
So all you noobs just ask away.

Also one thing I have noticed.
When a member does use the search function and pulls up a old thread. Many are quick to attack the fact that they an old thread has been brought up.

That's my 2 cents before morning coffee

 

[Jac1582]

I think it's alot easier for someone to understand information if it's specifically directed towards them and not reading an old problem. Even with all the info online there's so much contradicting info, hence why this place is so important for people to ask help from others that have been in real world situations with their own experiences. I can understand the frustration but if you can make a differance in even one persons pets life it was worth the minor inconvenience to answer a question you've already answered a hundred times. A big thanks to all the members..and a HUGE thank you to all the senior members and mods who've not only helped me, but to also have saved the lives of many chameleons and other animals for that matter!!

 

[Cainschams]

Then stop reading those posts/treads - Simple as that.

If there were a warning then I would. Although my statement was just sarcasm for what I feel to be an unproductive thread also. Maybe the OP should listen to your advise?

I feel the same as others. People come here for help and I think that is the most important function this forum does. So many times I see new members get scared away because of this type of attitude.

My first cham was a jacksonii that was way over priced at a pet shop. Luckily they know how to take basic care of a cham or I would have been SOL. I came home and did research and one thing we all need to remember is that there is a lot of mis-information on the internet about chams.

I think it makes a person feel better, even if they searched, for someone to answer their question directly.

JMO

 

[buddy912]

i need all the help i can get

well all i know is i did do alot of research on these guys(veiled chameleons) b4 i got one n spent tonsa monies on him. but now that he is here well let me just say.... i have tons of questions so if anyone wants to take the time n have the time feel free to shoot me a message... i am all ears n full of ????'s.

 

[maxttu]

I have a question or two:

Is there an absolute, one-stop-shop way of supplementing my chams? How many days can I use calcium?

How does my setup look? Oh, you need pics? My camera battery is charging.

Dubias. Are they good feeders? Can I use them as a staple feeder?

UVB. Do I really need it?




I was once a rookie, newbie, greenpea, etc. and I was lost without you guys. I use the search engine daily, but I'll still bring up a topic that has been discussed before to NOT resurrect a two year old thread and to see if any new info is around. For example, I started a thread on Indian Walking Sticks. I saw older threads and a lot of info was from users that I've never heard of or seen before. My thread has multiple pages of great info that was not on those other threads. It's ok to ask questions, even if it's been addressed 1000's of x's.