Buyer pays PayPal fee ?

[Red Island]

Am I the only one that feels the seller should take the hit? If something sells for 200 why should the buyer have to front the fees charged by PayPal. Its not the buyers fault the seller is not setup for any other method of payment. I may be wrong ... I dont charge extra for receiving payment via PayPal, maybe I should.

 

[Julirs]

I always take the hit as the seller. Is there a way that you can make the buyer take it?

 

[ChameleonAlley]

We take the hit as a seller, but I've dealt with many sellers that want the buyer to take the hit. I usually don't mind, but it's however you feel about the situation. Paypal rapes in fees.

 

[ChamOh]

it's however the seller sets up the sale that matters. Buyer can decide to buy under those terms or not. I think paypal's fees are actually pretty reasonable. also there are ways around the fee when sending money. for a cham that's 200 bucks the paypal fee is about six dollars... nothing to get fired up over IMO.

what's the difference if the seller says the fee is 206 dollars for a cham (obviously including that papal fee in the total) or says the cham is 200 dollars + paypal fee? the price of the item is whatever the seller sets it at, and they can chose to allocate those funds how they wish in covering their costs.

Caveat emptor

 

[BocaJan]

The seller takes the hit, just like retail stores that have to pay the fees. It is part of the business of sales.

 

[ChamOh]

IMO thinking the seller should "take a hit" on a paypal fee is like saying a seller should cover shipping fees. it's a cost that's part of the transaction, just like shipping.

I do a lot of selling online (vintage and newer guitars) and people are usually happy to cover paypal and shipping cost as an added expense on the total cost of the item. item price + shipping and fees = total cost is typically the model used in online selling in my experience.

Just my $.02

 

[Chameleonator]

it's however the seller sets up the sale that matters. Buyer can decide to buy under those terms or not. I think paypal's fees are actually pretty reasonable. also there are ways around the fee when sending money. for a cham that's 200 bucks the paypal fee is about six dollars... nothing to get fired up over IMO.

what's the difference if the seller says the fee is 206 dollars for a cham (obviously including that papal fee in the total) or says the cham is 200 dollars + paypal fee? the price of the item is whatever the seller sets it at, and they can chose to allocate those funds how they wish in covering their costs.

Caveat emptor

I think it depends if the buyer has a choice of payment other than PayPal. If the seller offers PayPal only, the seller should take the hit. Same token you stated above, does the seller want to bicker over $6?

How would you feel if the only payment a seller will take is Pesos and on top of that charge extra for doing so? I'm sure they wouldn't stay in business for long or the very least lose sells.

That's why I pay cash most of the time at the gas station so I don't get hit on extra charges by using a credit card. But I have that option to choose whether or not I want to pay extra!

 

[ChamOh]

I think it depends if the buyer has a choice of payment other than PayPal. If the seller offers PayPal only, the seller should take the hit. Same token you stated above, does the seller want to bicker over $6?

How would you feel if the only payment a seller will take is Pesos and on top of that charge extra for doing so? I'm sure they wouldn't stay in business for long or the very least lose sells.

That's why I pay cash most of the time at the gas station so I don't get hit on extra charges by using a credit card. But I have that option to choose whether or not I want to pay extra!

"How would you feel if the only payment a seller will take is Pesos and on top of that charge extra for doing so?"

If i had a problem with that, I would move on to another seller. an option every buyer has. If i felt that the total cost with all the fees was reasonable, i would buy the item.

"I think it depends if the buyer has a choice of payment other than PayPal." again if you don't like the payment option(s) i would move on rather than cry this isn't fair. another seller in the free market is sure to meet your needs. idk. just me.

If you HAVE TO HAVE that particular chameleon (or whatever), then you have to suck it up and buy according to sellers rules. it's not unfair, mean, or out of the ordinary really.

 

[summoner12]

All you have to do is say "Winning bidder responsible for all fees;shipping and paypal"

if the person argues, they lose. If it was in the original auction the seller wins the battle and worse case scenario the you have to start the auction over again.... of course now your gonna get dinged again for another auction fee..... so depending on the fees it might be better to suck it up. Most of the time you get a credit if you show eBay the buyer was a flake. I was selling a violin for my boss and we had a few auctions go bad. I never ended up paying for them though.

Sometimes it's best to just say "shipping and handling fee is $X" and just guess on how much money it'll be to cover your 'handling fees'. The S/H fee is tacted on over the shipping cost. Ya can't lose money that way. That is how those infomercials stay alive... "ONLY three payments of 2.99!!!" and in small print "S+H Fee $18" that actually pays for the products LOL.

 

[summoner12]

That's why I pay cash most of the time at the gas station so I don't get hit on extra charges by using a credit card. But I have that option to choose whether or not I want to pay extra!

Most stations are 'same as cash'. Sometimes there are those stations that do offer a cash discount... but I don't have any in my area. I use speed pass anyway....... so.... I just use Mobil 99.99% of the time.

 

[sttines]

I agree with Chamoh. The fee is minimal and it's not that the seller is making more. Paypal has to get theirs, as is the norm today. Everyone has to get a slice.

Paypal is a convenience. For those that want to take care of business now or those worried about personal information leaking or whatever. Conveniences come at a price.

I have seen sellers NOT want to accept Paypal payments because of the fee and the 5 day or so wait for funds. In this case, the buyer, as I have done numerous times, can offer to pay the fee and the results are agreeable to each. Think of all the merchants that accept Paypal and don't increase their prices to cover it and some of those are in this group.

It's not that serious.

 

[CNorton]

I for one value the word of a seller. If someone tells me their cham is $200 with shipping included, I would assume $200 out the door. If I go to buy the cham on paypal and see that it's actually $206...though I might not back out on the deal...I would still feel that it should have been disclosed to me beforehand. It's just like when you go to buy a car and you agree on the price without stipulating EXACTLY what all that price covers. Be informed and inform your buyers...mom and dad really were right when they said "Honesty is the best policy."

 

[Texas Panther Man]

I agree with Norton if they say 400 or whatever. Shipping inc. then don't hit me up for paypal fees or for heat pack charges. that should be worked into the sellers asking price and shipping charge upfront. jmo

 

[ChamOh]

of course the total should be disclosed before you go to buy it, that's just called not being a sleezball.. i think that's not really the point here though.

 

[Texas Panther Man]

Personally everyone ive paid on paypal for chams and supplies/feedrs has eaten the fees. They havent made me pay, thats part of doing business. You have to place your items for sale at the approp price point.

 

[ChamOh]

Personally everyone ive paid on paypal for chams and supplies/feedrs has eaten the fees. They havent made me pay, thats part of doing business. You have to place your items for sale at the approp price point.

it's such a moot point, b/c it's a matter of perspective. I could just as easily say the buyer has to cover the cost because it's just part of buying that you cover the fees. there is no right or wrong here.

 

[Vegas Chad]

If you read the Terms of Service on the PayPal site it states that it is the sellers’ responsibility to pay the fee and it is actually a violation of those terms to publicly post or request the buyer to pay the fee. Now with that being said do people on ebay commonly post request seller to pay the fee, have I don’t it? Sure tons of people do, PayPal most likely has no where near the staff that would be required to enforce this rule. Most vendors like me usually work the fee into the price, or is gas/ink to print shipping labels and drop off boxes free? A lot of nickel and dime stuff goes into running a business that you don’t really think about until tax time rolls around (like now) and you find yourself wondering how the heck you used to many staples, printer ink, paper ECT... Even if you say I don’t wana use PayPal, run my CC, that is not free. Sending a MO or check is not free... But I digress.

I suppose it boils down to... Are you willing to pay the single digit % from a seller or no? If no then find another. Problem solved.

 

[Texas Panther Man]

I dont have a problem paying fees. Im also a business owner and i charge fees daily for my time and my professional help/knowledge. But i belive that the seller should disclose all fees and inc all in one final "sales price". Keeps the confusion and hard feelings to a min.

 

[ChamOh]

exactly--sellers typically work the fee into the total price. it's an issue of semantics. either way the buyer typically is "paying" for the fee. so who cares if the seller doesn't work the fee into the total and says the price is x + fees? it's not how I would do business typically, but in the end it's all the same.

 

[Red Island]

Working the fees into the sale price looks like the best way to go. As a seller I wouldnt advertise paying the fees plus asking price, its not a large amount of money but it just might be enough to change someone's mind.